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Who will join Sean Lee and Bruce Carter in the 2012 Cowboys Inside Linebacker rotation?
This past season, Cowboys fans all over watched in amazement that a recent front seven draftee played week in, week out, with reckless abandon. Since DeMarcus Ware was drafted in 2005, the Cowboys haven't really had much success with early round draft picks for the front seven of their 3-4 alignment. That is, until Chuck Norris Sean Lee stepped into the role of budding inside linebacker superstar.
Marcus Spears, Kevin Burnett, Chris Canty, Bobby Carpenter, Jason Hatcher, Anthony Spencer, Jason Williams, Victor Butler, Brandon Williams; those are the front seven players drafted in the first four rounds since the Cowboys sent Ware's name up to the podium.
Any of those guys forge indelible reputations yet? Heck, outside of Spencer's strip sack of Rex Grossman this past season, are there many other scintillating plays etched in your memories?
But Sean Lee has given Cowboys fans hope; that DeMarcus Ware and late-round steal Jay Ratliff's stellar careers won't be wasted with little help. The 2010 second rounder exceeded expectations, yet it wasn't enough to solve the Cowboys problems at the position. It takes two to tango, and manning the opposite inside backer spot was a combination of players that were well past their prime.
Veterans Bradie James and Keith Brooking took the majority of the remaining inside linebacker snaps for Dallas, and it wasn't a pretty sight for much of the year.
| Player | 2011 Snap Count |
|---|---|
| Sean Lee | 868 |
| Bradie James | 414 |
| Keith Brooking | 409 |
| Alex Albright | 43 |
| Bruce Carter | 41 |
Much more...
There's no doubting that Bradie James performed admirably in his time with the Dallas Cowboys. James was drafted in the fourth round out of LSU by recent Hall-of-Fame snub Bill Parcells. It was Parcells first year in Dallas, and although he would later bring the 3-4 defense to Dallas, at the time he didn't have the parts to enact the transition that year. James would sit for two years, but would then lead the Cowboys in tackles for five consecutive years starting in 2005. However, he has never been very adept at pass coverage, and over the past few years, opponents had started to increase his targets.
Keith Brooking came over to Dallas as a free agent from Atlanta in the 2009 season; replacing another aged vet, Zach Thomas. While he became an emotional leader for a team lacking a fire and brimstone guy immediately; he was a exposed as a bit of a fraud in a season-ending defeat at Minnesota in the 2009 playoffs. Brooking complained that the Vikings were running up the score on the Cowboys; in-game to the opponent and post-game to the press.
In 2010, you could see the writing on the wall for Brooking. He started being pushed backwards on run stops over and over again, to Cowboys fans dismay. It was clear by the end of the year that the team needed the Sean Lee infusion; and the club knew it too.
Here's a look at the inside backers key numbers from the last three seasons; which highlight the trends a bit.
| Player | Season | Snaps | Cumulative Rating | PFF Run D Rating | PFF Cov. Rating | QB Rating Against |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Bradie James | 2011 | 414 | -4.1 | 0.5 | -2.8 | 139.6 |
| 2010 | 920 | 12.5 | 10.2 | 2.2 | 102.9 | |
| 2009 | 1011 | 10.3 | 5.0 | 4.4 | 104.8 | |
| Keith Brooking | 2011 | 409 | -7.9 | -4.5 | -3.6 | 95.0 |
| 2010 | 906 | 2.8 | 2.7 | 1.8 | 90.1 | |
| 2009 | 899 | 17.5 | 13.0 | 3.2 | 101.0 |
As you can see, neither player gave the Cowboys much reason to bring them back into the fold for 2012, as both are unrestricted free agents. This causes a bit of a problem as Dallas is ridiculously inexperienced outside of Sean Lee.
2011 second-round pick Bruce Carter is penciled in as the starter opposite of Lee for the moment. He of 41 total defensive snaps. I've made no secret of my hope that the Cowboys gamble of drafting a first-round caliber, yet seriously injured player, pans out. However, it is a very risky leap to go into the 2012 season banking on Carter to be able to log 800 quality snaps opposite Lee. Can it happen? Sure. Do I hope it happens? Definitely. Would I bank on it? Not a chance, even with a 3.825% interest rate.
Regardless, you'd imagine that Dallas is seeking a new third man for the rotation. The question is, what type of player?
It's possible, but I doubt Dallas is looking at bringing in another high draft pick. Even if Carter can't star this year, you'd have to expect Dallas sees him as a star by 2013. The third inside backer is probably looking at between 400 and 600 snaps a season, max.
So, to me, I expect Dallas to continue their recent trend of lower-priced free agents to find their solution.
From there, you have to consider what type of player Rob Ryan wants manning the middle of his defense. Ryan ran a 4-3 while in Oakland (which lends to the conversation about a more diverse fronts), but did run his 3-4 in Cleveland. This is a list of the players that manned the middle for Ryan in his two years there.
| Year | RILB/LILB | Height/Weight | Yrs of Service @ Acq. | Method of Acquisition |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2009 | David Bowens | 6'3 260 lbs | 10 | Signed as FA in 09 |
| D'Qwell Jackson | 6'0 230 lbs | -- | Inherited | |
| Eric Barton | 6'2 245 lbs | 10 | Signed as FA in 09 | |
| Jason Trusnik | 6'4 241 lbs | 3 | Mid-season 09 trade | |
| 2010 | Chris Gocong | 6'2 260 lbs | 4 | Off-season 10 trade |
As you can see, the players that Rob Ryan chose for his defense all fit a similar mold. Between 6'2" and 6'4" and between 240 and 260 lbs. Sean Lee (6'2" 236 lbs) and Bruce Carter (6'1" 233 lbs) fall just short of those markers, so I'd expect Ryan to seek someone a bit closer to the mold in free agency.
Ryan also didn't mind young or older veterans; with two acquisitions with double digit experience and then two trades for players on their first contracts. It's also important to note that even though he acquired two players pre-season closer to his mold, that didn't stop him from starting Jackson, a smaller player. Jackson started all six games at RILB before being lost for the season.
There are quite a few names available in free agency at the inside LB position; it's pretty amazing that not many people are talking about them. For a look, check out Pro Football Focus' Free Agent Tracker. Here are some names that I'm pondering Dallas' interest, as they might be a little off the grid.
Dan Connor (6'3" 233 lbs) - Connor played the majority of games in a season for the first time in his career and is now a UFA. He's graded out well in run defense and slightly below average in pass coverage the last two years.
Lofa Tatupu (6'0" 238 lbs) - Tatupu is a little shorter than Ryan seems to like, but his situation is interesting. He sat out the 2011 season due to a 2010 knee injury. According to this National Football Post report, Tatupu suffered from their being no off-season program and now looks to be 100% healthy. He was an intriguing player prior to his release, but Dallas might be looking for a better pass defender.
Channing Crowder (6'2" 245 lbs) - He was released from the Dolphins prior to the 2011 season and spent the year as a radio show host. It seems that he was disgruntled about the release due to his "mysterious injury" and also wanted to care for his pregnant wife, so he decided to take a break; but now he's back. Crowder's 2008 and 2010 PFF grades were outstanding, while his '09 was a bit subpar. He also flashed a bit of pass rushing ability, something the Cowboys sorely lacked in the past few years from up the middle.
D'Qwell Jackson (6'0" 230 lbs) - Missed most of 2009 with an injured pectoral, than missed all of 2010 after injuring the other pec. Unrestricted free agent, spent his entire career in Cleveland, but his injured years were when he was under Ryan's tutelage (09-10). Last year took 1096 snaps, and accrued a huge 18.4 PFF Cumulative Grade. His run defense was stellar (+18.0) but he was put in a 4-3 defense for the first time in his career. The Cowboys probably aren't on his top choices because of the snaps available.
Again, there are plenty of other names available, spanning the range from expensive to cheap, experienced to young, and those that you can probably expect to stay put or look for a starter's gig. I just think it's high time we start including inside linebacker in our conversations about Dallas' glaring needs.
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I agree that we need the help.
But I don’t like any of the names on that list. We need Carter and Butler to step up and then get
Elilucky in the draft with another one.Mikellie - February 7, 2012
Carter only had 40 some odd snaps...
but most of them came in the last 3 games. He injured his knee in November 2010. It takes a full year to recover. Then probably with most guys, close to another year to regain confidence in the knee. I think Carter is going to come into camp ready to take his place in the starting rotation. We also have Orie Lemon, whom could step up. If we sign anyone, it has to be someone that has a different skill set than the guys already here. Carter and Lee are great cover guys, so I’d expect someone who can play the run. I’d be more interested in someone like David Hawthorne. He’s big enough to be an inside thumper (246) and has roots in Texas.
White Wolf - February 7, 2012
+1 on Carter’s knee.
Coming back from an ACL really takes two years (I know from experience as I have torn my right ACL twice…no more rugby for me any more). Sure, he can phyiscally play after a year, but getting back all the strength and confidence takes another year.
Through Thick And Thin - February 7, 2012
Second the run help
Especially if we let Spencer go.
spm01 - February 7, 2012
So with all this,
If the draft fell a certain way, could anyone see the Cowboys drafting ILB at #14 (who’s the guy thats good Kuecly or something?)
thebigham - February 7, 2012
This is probably what JG means when he wants to fill needs during FA.
thebigham - February 7, 2012
Kuecly is a possibility if a solid DE like Williams arrives in free agency
That would imply more 4-3 fronts and would really leave us thin at 4-3 LBs. That said, it would make a heck of a lot of sense. The projected starters look great too: Ware, Ratliff, Hatcher, Williams, Carter, Lee, Kuecly…But those are just dreams
Becho - February 7, 2012
yeah it wouldn't shock me
he could be the BPA on their board
Archie Barberio - February 7, 2012
But it would make most of us crazy on draft day.
ANOTHER ILB!?!?!? WTF!!!
StarloverinWNC - February 7, 2012
if your going to run the 3-4 with success you need ILB & OLBs along with a DL that can get pressure up the middle
i sure hope Rob doesnt build this defense anything like his brother in NY by thinking you can stop elite QBs with just CBs.
if QB is the most important position on the field then pass rushers are the most important answer to stopping them. its not pass rushing DL can’t stop the run but those that lack the ability to get pressure wont ever be any good (like Spears, Spencer)
its odd how Dallas has let the better pass defenders go in FA like Kevin Burnett, Canty & Bowen. the loss of K.Burnett was huge & this defense has suffered from lack of ILBs that can cover.
if Kuecly is the BPA at 14 then i dont have any problem drafting him & having great Line backers in the 3-4 is a must have. a new NT would that can push the middle would be a huge help along the DL. Move Ratliff to DE then let Hatcher, Lissemore & draft pick to generate pressure
DCNation73 - February 8, 2012
ILB at 14
Doubtful, we have more pressing positions to fill. Carter should benefit from a proper full off-season, I do hope he goes into OTA’s and Camps and blows the doors down.
Good piece KD, I was thinking about the same thing and am glad you covered it.
I don’t see Dallas drafting ILB this year, we’ve spent ‘10-’11 picks on ILB’s and KD is pointing out FA to fill in the gaps and/or be a backstop if Carter doesn’t come to fruition.
Baloo. - February 7, 2012
I agree Baloo!!
A mid tier FA or a low-UDFA is where the help will come from!
mho - February 7, 2012 via iPhone app
They might
not take one at #14 but I wouldn’t be surprised if they took one later in the draft.
jevans1729 - February 7, 2012
+1
BigBad Joe - February 7, 2012
Young, Fast, and Smart
I just want to see some young, fast, and smart players that are able to cover TEs and RBs and disrupt passes over the middle. At some point the team just needs to see what it has by playing Carter/Lemon/Albright.
I could see an FA being brought in, but it needs to be a young guy that can cover or a short-yardage run stopper type. No more old, slow ILBs.
We have too many other draft needs (DL/DB/OL) to go for a luxury pick on an ILB in the first 4-5 rounds.
Through Thick And Thin - February 7, 2012
Espn is getting ready to discuss how the cowboys could win it all next yr.
If we take a look back at the year, we really weren’t that far off. Need a really really good offseason and I personally think we are still 2 years away, but it’s possible.
Dynamicduo - February 7, 2012 via mobile
you did see the the giants and eagles destroy us right?
teams that are close to winning it all do not look that bad against teams they know, No, No, we were not close, I really liked the move at O-line to rebuild this last year but with the lockout and so many youglies i did not expect to be a contender,
Musiccitynorm - February 7, 2012
The only team to beat us pretty bad
was the Eagles the first time we played. Every game was pretty close.
BrickTop - February 7, 2012 via mobile
I like being optimistic
But every year it’s the same thing. I just want to see us pick up some good players and worry about next season when it comes.
ary201 - February 7, 2012
List of FA ILB, OLB - WalterFootball.com
Outside Linebackers:
Leroy Hill, OLB, Seahawks. Age: 29
Erin Henderson, OLB, Vikings. Age: 26
Wesley Woodyard, OLB, Broncos. Age: 26
Aaron Maybin (RFA), DE/OLB, Jets. Age: 24
Russell Allen (RFA), OLB, Jaguars. Age: 26
Edgar Jones, DE/OLB, Ravens. Age: 27
Inside Linebackers:
David Hawthorne, ILB, Seahawks. Age: 27
Jovan Belcher (RFA), ILB, Chiefs. Age: 25
Jameel McClain, ILB, Ravens. Age: 27
Baloo. - February 7, 2012
Would not mind
McClain from Balt at the right price
BigBad Joe - February 7, 2012
I like the ages.
If we are looking at a competent but somewhat average guy, go with someone who has a couple or three years left in the tank.
Tom Ryle - February 7, 2012
Mcclain and hawthorne could be good pickups
ary201 - February 7, 2012
Interestingly enough both McClain and Hawthorne were UDFAs
though neither started their rookie year.
dacolan - February 7, 2012
1 vet + 1 rook
They’ll offer around $2.5 mil/year and see what veteran bites to be the 3rd guy, like they did with safety last year. They’ll draft an ILB late (5th round on)—Tank Carder anyone?—to be the 4th guy/special teamer.
DB23 - February 7, 2012
I'm not concerned with Carter's ability to stay healthy at all.
As stated above, after a torn ACL you don’t really get back to full strength until about 18 months. Knee injuries like that happen all the time. We see it every year and every year we see guys bounce back from it. He was not injury prone at UNC and I don’t expect him to be with the Cowboys. I’m so freaking excited for him and I can’t wait to see him answer all the questions that people have about him.
TARHEEL PAUL - February 7, 2012
Same here. All the people that hated, trashed the pick all last year are going to be eating their words. Carter and lee at ILB's could give us the best inside duo in the league.
1st round talent in the second round will pay off for the second straight year
Dynamicduo - February 7, 2012 via mobile
I agree-
but it’s purely based on hope, and I hope that Dallas front office has the behind the scenes evidence that he will be ready to take on that role in 2012.
KD Drummond - February 7, 2012
Based off of Jerry's comments at the Senior Bowl
Carter should be starting alongside Lee in 2012.
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
I have to agree
Before Carter was injured in college, he had all of the scouts drooling over his skills and ability. The knee injury is one that you come back a 100% from and there is no reason to believe with his character and work ethic that he will not be playing at his best. He will have a full off season to get fully involved with the defense. I am not ready to say he will have a Sean Lee type year but he will be a huge upgrade over James and Brookings.
Birddog26 - February 7, 2012
+1
yehti - February 7, 2012 via mobile
where would he have been
Drafted at? What are his skill strengths/weaknesses?
mho - February 7, 2012 via iPhone app
He would have been a solid pick in the late teens to ealry 20's
He was considered very athletic, high character, strong blue collar work ethic, showed great speed, balance and agility, great in persuit, very disciplined at staying on assignment, great ST players, versatile, a true sideline to sideline player with great range.
Weaknesses were in pass rush skills and not a true thumper when tackeling.
There was an extremely low risk factor with his knee but teams were not as inclined to invest in his rehab time in the first round.
Birddog26 - February 7, 2012
4.3 40 faster than our corners
29 reps @225 stronger than our offensive tackles,,, think about that for a second
Musiccitynorm - February 7, 2012
Damn!
StarloverinWNC - February 7, 2012
wow!
mho - February 7, 2012 via iPhone app
I see the altheticism is there, but what about his instincts?
That’s arguably much more important, IMHO.
dacolan - February 7, 2012
Injurys are always a concern
Having two starters who were injured during the draft leaves alot to.be desired. Then again lee has shown injurys don’t slow him down much at all. Carter can still be the player we hoped for in the draft but he has to prove himself to.be that starter. Lee won his job over spears I would rather get a known vet with alittle gas left in his tank to fight Carter for his job. I don’t like rookies starting by default look at what happens to Philly when Mathews started by default. Rookies have to earn there spot for.more reasons than one. First it gives them a confidence that is much deserved beating out a vet. Two it allows to coach to have confidence in the position as well which leads to better game planning. And last if they win by default I believe your setting them up for failure. Teaching them that all they have to do is show up and its theres and that’s what Dallas is trying to get away from. So bring me in a seasoned vet and let Carter win his starting position.
Sado44 - February 7, 2012 via mobile
Ligament injuries such as the ones Lee and Carter had were more a concern to fans and the media that want a story line than NFL teams
What the media never talks about and most fans are not aware of is the use of Isokinetic testing that all combine participants must go through. There it is primarily used to measure the function, range of motion, flexibility and readiness of the knee along with identifing longterm functional problems with the knee. Along with the test at the combine many NFL teams tests each prospect along with administering isometric and isotonic testing to not only the knees but all joints, muscles and ligaments. In the end they have a very clear picture of the injury, rehab time and it’s longterm effects on a prospect.
These tests are also used to establish S & C program to prehab against potential problems and injuries.
Birddog26 - February 7, 2012
I wasnt refuring to there perticular injury birddog
Making a pure statement that injurys where always a concern maybe I worded it wrong. My point was the starting job by default that I don’t much care for. I have heard of some of these testing and realise the injury is one that is 100% after healing. Carter can easily win his job since he has knowledge of the system over a seasoned vet. But I still feel like he should have to earn it over a legitimate player.
Sado44 - February 7, 2012 via mobile
OT
What are you thoughts/insights on Duenta Williams (?), the safety that took a year off after not being drafted?
GalTex - February 8, 2012
PFF Grades
PFF gave James & Brooking positive grades in pass coverage in 2010?? Did they actually watch the games?
Gen_cornrow_wallace - February 7, 2012
Brett Roy DT Nevada
As a LB, might be something like a square peg in a round hole but Rob would try to make it fit.
ziggy19 - February 7, 2012
I would take Tatupu in a second.
Watched that guy give the NFCW fits…
BlueNSilverBlood - February 7, 2012
Have been watching him since he entered the league.
(Due to living in Seattle) He was one of the leaders of the D when they went to SB, production has slowed a little since then, but he played with a broken arm majority of ’09 I think.
Baloo. - February 7, 2012
Tatupu is playing for his College coach in Seattle if he's healthy
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
he was cut i thought. I think he's a FA
mahuebel - February 7, 2012
Good player
but undersized and isn’t great at defending the pass. I would like the pickup, but worry that we have 3 guys that are sort of on the small side and all sort of injury prone.
ary201 - February 7, 2012
All good points.
Plus he is aging so pass D is falling off.
BlueNSilverBlood - February 7, 2012
For all of the wasted and blown picks on ilb by Dallas.....
the Giants pick up Chase Blackburn off the street and look at the run he had. He was as good as any linebacker in the last 4 regular season games and the playoffs.
No one here knows for sure if Carter is going to be a good player. He had 40 snaps.
Change to a 4-3. This scouting staff has failed at bringing in competent ilb’s. 1 out of 10 isn’t a good percentage. Look how the Giants just bring in waves of d linemen. They’re easier to draft. I just don’t see 3-4 personnel on this team in regards to linebackers or d linemen.
football mensa - February 7, 2012
yeah they dont draft and place a priority on LB's
Archie Barberio - February 7, 2012
DEs aren't easier to draft
If they were, every 4-3 team would be loaded with DEs. The Giants have just done an extraordinary job at finding talent and drafting well
somebodyquiet - February 7, 2012
they drafted like 10 front seven guys in one draft,,,,
while negleting O-line, linebackers and corners,,,, they are still weak in these positions,
Musiccitynorm - February 7, 2012
yet they just won the super bowl. huh.
ary201 - February 7, 2012
Something about the core strength of a team being...
… up the middle, something, something.
Let the budding continue. Dare I say, this bud’s for you, beer or bud?
tanstaafl - February 7, 2012
If anyone listened to Jerry Jones at the Senior Bowl
He specifically said, the Cowboys like the Athleticism and ability to cover from side line to side line that both Sean Lee and Bruce Carter present.
Jerry let it be known that the front office expects Bruce Carter to win the starting job alongside Sean Lee. He said Carter is the perfect compliment at ILB for Lee.
That Vikings game in the 2009 playoffs, the entire 2010 season, and the Eagles losses are exhibits A, B, & C as to why the Cowboys would prefer to roll with Lee and Carter. The Cowboys are going for speed, athleticism and coverage.
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
this isn't about someone being projected ahead of Lee and Carter
It would seem foolish to me for the Cowboys to plan on both players logging 1100 snaps each in 2012.
KD Drummond - February 7, 2012
+ Depth
BigBad Joe - February 7, 2012
Ha. This^^^
BlueNSilverBlood - February 7, 2012
I do agree they will look to add depth behind Lee and Carter
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
Jimmy Johnson profile
oldtimer - February 7, 2012
he also said
he wished we had LB`s like the 49ers, that Eli was the difference between the G-Men and the Cowboys, that he had 50 concussions otherwise he would be President of the USA.
ziggy19 - February 7, 2012
Ziggy19 get the facts straight
1) He hever said the words “We wish our ILBs are like the 49ers.” Jerry said the Boys like Lee & Carter as their version of Willis & Bowman; with the difference being that Willis & Bowman are two traditional thumpers who compliment each other. Jerry went on to say that Carter is the perfect compliment to Lee because their athleticism and speed allows them to cover the field from sideline to sideline.
2) After watching the full media session on Monday at the Senior Bowl and Tuesday Senior Bowl practice interview with NFL Network, it’s obvious when Jerry spoke of Eli Manning, he was speaking as a fan of the NFL and complimenting Eli for his play this season. He never threw Romo under the bus, even saying that Romo played at the same level that Eli did, that the Cowboys have to get better around Tony Romo, that QB (in Dallas) is not a position needing significant improvement.
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
problem is
every time he opens his trap the media have a field day and twists his words around so he should just learn to keep his mouth shut.
ziggy19 - February 7, 2012
I think they will draft a ILB
really, it wouldn’t shock me to see them take one in the 3rd round
it’s just how they do things
Archie Barberio - February 7, 2012
If Burfick is there in the third, they'll draft him, IMO.
pfloyd1 - February 7, 2012
I dont think he will far that fall
I think he goes in the 2nd somewhere
if he was there in the 3rd, I would take the chance on him, especially in the 3rd round where its less of a risk
Archie Barberio - February 7, 2012
Watch the Ravens
take him at the back end of the first. He will have Ray Lewis to mentor him. The kid has Raven written all over him. Too much aggression can be throttled back.
jevans1729 - February 7, 2012
I am curious to see what ILB's they like in the draft though
we really won’t know until the Valley Ranch invites
Archie Barberio - February 7, 2012
For what it's worth.........
Vegas odds where Peyton Manning play next year.
Az…………………2:1
Skins……………5:2
Miami…………..3:1
Jets………………7:2
Colts…………….7:1
DIRE WOLF - February 7, 2012
I'm betting on the Cardinals
Larry Fitzgerald put the full court press on Peyton during SB weekend. Fitz, the rest of the receiving corps, Beanie Wells, and that young defense, would be able to challenge the 49ers for the NFC West.
The next team I bet on is the Dolphins: Reggie Bush, Daniel Thomas, Brandon Marshall, that defense. That’s a team that can compete with New England for the AFC East if Manning went there.
Why the hell would Peyton Manning go to the Redskins? He’s not motivated by pure money. He’s a guy who wants to win. I’m sorry Hogheaven readers, but a gimpy Chris Cooley, a roided Fred Davis, over the hill Santana Moss, ad unproven guys like Armstrong, and a gimpy Hankerson are not enough to entice Peyton Manning to play there. The Redskins are void of All-Pro talent on the offense.
The Colts: take em if you want to throw your money away. All of Peyton Manning’s coaches have been fired or let go. They’ve already let it be known they are taking a QB with their first pick (they want a rookie QB who can come in right away and play, that leads me right to Andrew Luck). The Colts WILL NOT pay $28 million in guaranteed money regardless of what Peyton’s doctors said.
The Jets: intrigue me, however, the only way they do this; they need to keep Santonio Holmes and Plaxico Burress & trade Mark Sanchez. They can’t afford Manning and Sanchez (under a very lucrative rookie contract).
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
I don't see him in Wash either, doubt he wants to play Eli twice a year.
Plus Archie would hate it, so I’ve heard. Agree, my money’s on Az. or Miami.
DIRE WOLF - February 7, 2012
Miami brings drama as well with Peyton playing Brady twice!
Has anyone thought that he might sign with San Francisco? That would be the prefect place for him. Grate D good oline, great RB, decent WR, great TE! What’s not to like. Plus the refs will put Brady in the SB!
mho - February 7, 2012 via iPhone app
The 49ers are out of the question
1) They will have Alex Smith re-signed asap. Both sides mutually want to get another deal done.
2) Michael Crabtree is slow, and can’t get off the LOS. He can’t beat press coverage. It was painfully obvious this post season.The talent behind him at WR is lacking.
3) Frank Gore has too much tread on his tires. He won’t be starting much longer; by mid season 2012, I’m betting that Kendall Hunter takes the job from him.
4) Manning loves an aggressive passing offense; Harbaugh is from the Bo Schembecler school of coaching-balanced offense with 50-50 run pass ratio. It’s how Stanford operated in the Andrew Luck era, and it’s how he wants the offense to run in SF.
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
interesting. well I hope your right cause I'd hate to see
SF get six before us!
mho - February 7, 2012 via iPhone app
is arizona
going to break the bank and use valuable trade assets for a QB two years in a row, though?
I think Miami makes a lot of sense.
Alan Smithee - February 7, 2012
What's it going to cost to sign Manning?
$8 to $10m a year?
DIRE WOLF - February 7, 2012
Plus a $10m signing bonus.
DIRE WOLF - February 7, 2012
a lot
Alan Smithee - February 7, 2012
no it won't
Peyton already said he’s willing to take little to 0 guranteed money
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
I'll believe that when I see it.
DIRE WOLF - February 7, 2012
NFL Network is reporting this on their ticker all morning
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
I don't doubt it's being reported,
I just don’t know why he would work cheap, it makes no sense.
DIRE WOLF - February 7, 2012
Manning is not a guy motivated by money
1) He’s motivated by winning games and competing for Championships.
2) He’s got tons of endorsenent money from Sony, Papa Johns, Wheaties, Reebok etc.
3) He’s got money in the bank. He got $26 million in 2011.
The guy just wants to play and compete. He knows if he takes an incentive based contract, he’d be able to reach those incentives which kicks up his salary. He also knows the next team he plays for will also need cap flexibility to continue to improve the team.
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
Manning is motivated by money
Archie, Eli and peytons father is thier manager and he did not want Eli to play in san diego beacause it was such a small market and Eli cold make more money in New York,,,,,, Eli got a crazy contract by holding the Giants hostage a few years ago,,,, the Mannings are all about money.
Musiccitynorm - February 7, 2012
Archie didn't want Eli to play for SD
Because the team wasn’t very good in Drew Brees’ and LT’s early years. There was a lack of talent at WR, oline, & on defense. Archie saw the situation and knew it had potential to be a disaster.
It was the Eli Rivers trade that helped build that franchise up.
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
They were both awful!!!
and the bolts were better sooner, it took Kurt Warner to get the Giants relevant again,
It was the market not the teams,
Musiccitynorm - February 7, 2012
If it was about the Market
Then Peyton would’ve asked for a trade when the Colts drafted him. The only thing going for the Colts when Peyton got there was Marshall Faulk. The Colts were terrible Manning’s forst year there. They didn’t get better until they traded Faulk to the Rams.
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
it's good rhetoric
but I have a hard time believing he’ll be cheap.
And, let’s clarify this: signing an incentive based contract doesn’t equate signing a cheap one. The incentives might be very easily achieved. 10+ games, 2k yards, 15 td’s; Manning could be half asleep and reach those.
Alan Smithee - February 7, 2012
an incentive based contract means
that the base salary is very low, and the guranteed money is not much to 0. That means the team takes a minimal cap hit until said incentives are reached. It’s a win win scenario.
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
From what I gathered
1) The Cardinals were not that impressed with Kevin Kolb. Kent Wissenhunt let it be known that Kolb’s mechanics, and foot work were not good. He also mentioned the offense they have might not fit Kolb’s strengths.
2) Kolb’s contract has a lot of incentives built in to inflate the potential value of the deal. As of right now, Kolb’s contract is as follows: 6 years, $65 million, with $21.5 guaranteed (including a $10 million signing bonus), in 2012, his base salary is $1million (+$7million roster bonus due March 17th), in 2013 his base salary is $9million (with a $2million dollar roster bonus due in March of that year), from 2014-2016 he’s owed $10 million.
If the Cards want to get out of Kolb’s contract, this would be the perfect time to do it.
3) Peyton Manning said he’s willing to take a contract that’s mainly incentive based and contains less guaranteed money.
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
kolb may not be very good
I guess I’m just not sure they’d roll the dice again so soon. I guess it depends on their cap situation and what other FA’s they need to bring back.
Alan Smithee - February 7, 2012
Boy Kolb makes out like a bandit if they cut him.
$21.5 mil gauranteed, he played what 6 games last year. That’s over 3 million per game. Rediculous.
StarloverinWNC - February 7, 2012
Santonio Holmes
has become a real locker room problem for the Jets. I’m not sure he hasn’t worn out his welcome.
jevans1729 - February 7, 2012
I got sanchez to go to washington
And jets picking up manning and giving a few picks for him in a be move they give colts Washington’s picks for Sanchez. Its obvious Washington has no one on board that can evaluate qb play and getting a qb that has made the Confrence game twice in 3 years bolds well for them. But jets won’t give away Sanchez unless they have a backup plan that’s where manning comes into play. It doesn’t matter either way its not like one offseason and peyton will be playing like he did with the colts he would have to totally restructure his play style and oc would also be giving up his glory by giving manning his best asset on the field his knowledge. So doesn’t matter peyton is two years away from being peyton and that may be a year to long.
Sado44 - February 7, 2012 via mobile
why trade for manning when he will be cut?
thebigham - February 7, 2012
Why cut when he is so valuable
More than a handful of teams need a qb much less a hof qb who hasn’t shown signs of regression other than one season of no playing. He can be the hersal walker for the colts why cut him.
Sado44 - February 7, 2012 via mobile
Who's gonna trade for that contract?
No one. 28 million is too much to pay ANY one player.
StarloverinWNC - February 7, 2012
because there is a ZERO chance they would even be able to trade him before they have to pay him that contract bonus in March.
thebigham - February 7, 2012
Washington makes a lot of sense
if you include Reggie Wayne is a FA. Instant contention offense. Playing Eli twice a year is an incentive not a detraction; NFC East level media exposure; and a friendly relationship with one of the NFL’s largest fanbases and richest owners.
AustonianAggie - February 7, 2012
add in superbowl winner Mike Shannahan
and a a quality defense in place, with top offensive line men having been recently drafted
AustonianAggie - February 7, 2012
Where ever Peyton goes, I’m sure there will be a quality WR and defense. WR (Reggie) can be bought, but the D is what needs to already exist
AustonianAggie - February 7, 2012
you really are that certain Wayne will follow Manning wherever?
If so the team in question better have a lot of cap space and few key FA’s to lock up.
I think both those guys are going to look at this as their last big payday. Manning may say he’ll take less guaranteed money but do we really think his agent or the players union will let him sign for peanuts? He might take a discount relative to the $90 million contract he signed with the Colts last offseason, but he definitely won’t come cheap.
Alan Smithee - February 7, 2012
NFL Network is reporting
That Peyton Manning won’t seek a contract with a lot of guranteed money.
There goes your notion of him wanting a big payday. He just got $26 million to sit and twiddle his thumbs last year. He’s not exactly hurting for cash.
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
he just wants to play
he doesn’t care about the money, he has plenty of money
he is just eager to play and he loves the game
Archie Barberio - February 7, 2012
he had plenty of money last year too
and took a $90 million deal.
Alan Smithee - February 7, 2012
Yeah, but he actually took a small contract than what was originally being offered last year.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6817822/indianapolis-colts-peyton-manning-signs-five-year-90-million-deal
Grimlock83 - February 7, 2012
he turned down being the highest paid nfl player ever
to be just one of the highest paid nfl players ever.
Alan Smithee - February 7, 2012
It still shows he is willing to take less money.
Grimlock83 - February 7, 2012
and that less doesn't mean he won't still take a lot
Alan Smithee - February 7, 2012
I'm telling you
I saw the report on NFL Network this morning. Peyton said he’s not going to seek a contract with a lot of guranateed money in it.
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
he can say whatever he wants
How often do athletes do exactly what they say they’d do? Especially when it comes to money?
Alan Smithee - February 7, 2012
Peyton Manning is different
If you think he isn’t motivated by competing, winning, and proving critics wrong you’ve never watched him play besides the times he’s played Dallas, the playoff games, and SBs.
The guy is one of the greatest competitors the game has ever had. He’s motivated by his place in history, and how many rings he can get. He just watched a SB played at his home stadium played between his biggest rival, Tom Brady, and his little brother Eli. He wants rings, the kind you can only win.
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
Peyton has reportedly (ESPN, Mike & Mike) said...
That his next contract will be mostly incentive based. I’m not sure he will want to play for Shanahan because he is a control freak and Peyton would have to adapt to Shanys’ offense! Those two would butt heads all game. Peyton likes to call plays at the line and make his own adjustments, Shanahan is notorious for being a control Freak and benching players (regardless of talent) for not following his lead to the T. At least this is my perception and hope that keeps Peyton off the Skins!
mho - February 7, 2012 via iPhone app
If he goes to Wash, the NFC East will be the Beast of the league.
DIRE WOLF - February 7, 2012
Oddly enough, I think Sean Lee might like him being in the East.
Had a pretty good game against him, as I recall.
Tom Ryle - February 7, 2012
You forget two things
1) If the Redskins signed Wayne, the talent on the Redskins offense is still garbage outside of Wayne and Helu.
2) Manning is not a West Coast Offense QB; he doesn’t bootleg; he doesn’t do a lot of 3 step drops unless it’s the 2min drill.
Even if they sign Reggie Wayne, I’ll go out on a limb and say Washington WILL NOT get Peyton Manning.
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
doesn’t Washington DC win the offseason every year? Signing Peyton Manning is exactly what the Redskins would try to do every year
AustonianAggie - February 7, 2012
Also Peyton can run and scramble, and I’m sure Shannahan and Peyton can work out an offense together. Peyton is his own OC for all intents and purposes
AustonianAggie - February 7, 2012
Not so fast
1) Peyton Manning IS NOT a moble QB, he very rarely scrambles out of the pocket.
2) Shanny IS A control freak as a play caller.
3) The Redskins under Shannahan and Bruce Allen haven’t been winning off seasons. They’ve been building through the draft.
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
Two teams are a QB away from being great, Denver and San Fran.
But there not on the radar.
DIRE WOLF - February 7, 2012
And Jets?
thebigham - February 7, 2012
The Jets would only work IF
1) Sporano ceedes control of the offense to Peyton.
2) They keep both Plaxico and Holmes.
3) They can trade Mark Sanchez. Sanchez’s base salary for 2012 is $8.5 million +$2.75 million roster bonus due March 28th. In 2013 he’s owed only $4.525 million (the final year of his deal).
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
Both Mannings in NY.
Don’t know if Archie would allow it.
DIRE WOLF - February 7, 2012
Archie doesn't want it
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
so what's the deal with Archie?
Is he trying to pimp his sons kardashian style? And get the most exposure?
thebigham - February 7, 2012
Remember when Eli got drafted, Archie said no to SD and wanted Eli in the NFC so Peyton wouldn't play Eli much.
DIRE WOLF - February 7, 2012
I thought it was just because SD was a cluster.
Who knows. Maybe Archie and Kris Jenner need to compare notes.
thebigham - February 7, 2012
Broncos fans would kick Special Olympics QB Tim Tebow to the curb for Peyton Manning.
Manning will not go to San Francisco for the following reasons:
1) 0 Talent at WR: Michael Crabtree and the nobodies is not enough.
2) The 49ers want to bring back Alex Smith. Alex Smith wants to stay with the team.
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
Alex Smith is a JAG and San Fran knows it.
DIRE WOLF - February 7, 2012
I have a friend who covers them
He’s very well plugged in. He told me over the weekend Alex Smith’s contract will be finalized ASAP. He and Harbaugh have a great relationship.
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
Good, don't have to worry about SF in the future.
DIRE WOLF - February 7, 2012
SF has some serious thinking to do in their secondary too
Carlos Rogers is 29? 30? He has an amazing season but do you break the bank for someone so old? If you don’t sign him, you’re gonna need a top tier CB pronto
somebodyquiet - February 7, 2012
He's 29 I think.
I’m sure they’ll be trying to keep him, but Goldson is probably a bigger priority since he’s younger. Their defense is good enough that they may be able to get by with less-than-stellar CBs, especially if Goldson returns.
I’d have loved for us to make a run at Rogers if he wasn’t so expensive. Dude can’t catch to save his life, but he’d be a hell of an upgrade in coverage.
spm01 - February 7, 2012
Whatever keeps RGIII out of Washington I am up for
Becho - February 7, 2012
I think this is what happens.^^^
They are gonna go all out to get RGIII in the draft. It will set them back though cause they are gonna mortgage their draft for 2 seasons doing it.
StarloverinWNC - February 7, 2012
I am a Baylor alum and I want to see RGIII succeed, just not against the boys
Becho - February 7, 2012
but yeah that looks like how it will play out
Becho - February 7, 2012
I say Miami
Ross will do whatever it takes to make a splash. And if he goes there, Wayne will be there with him. So imagine Marshall, Wayne, Bess, Bush and a chance a drafting Richardson with a soild defense…… That’s flat out scary!! Especially to the Jets and New England
dcsince77 - February 7, 2012 via mobile
the dolphins won't draft a RB
They have Reggie Bush and Daniel Thomas (a rookie from 2011).
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
What did Daniel Thomas do last yr to want him over Trent Richardson??
dcsince77 - February 8, 2012 via mobile
WOULD ANY OF U AGREE
To take Manning if he is 100% and trade romo for more picks i have been reading and hearing about this a little
slickman26 - February 7, 2012 via mobile
No. Just no.
BrickTop - February 7, 2012 via mobile
Peyton Manning WILL NOT be a Dallas Cowboy
Unless this is Madden NFL 12
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
That would never even be a conversation.
Birddog26 - February 7, 2012
Manning is damaged goods and may never regain his arm strength. He wouldn't play for peanuts either. Would be a terrible risk.
pfloyd1 - February 7, 2012
Peyton manning is the best QB in history IMO and I don't think anyone can argue he's one of the top 5.
But no way he’s in a cowboy uniform
Dynamicduo - February 7, 2012 via mobile
Peyton is 35
if he was younger I would do it but at 35…he’ll play only a few more years
somebodyquiet - February 7, 2012
No way this happens
Romo would get you a 2nd and possible a 1st depending on the trade contract but manning would die a horrible death behind this line and he isn’t the air it out play action type. Wrong type of player for us. Guys his age are set in there play style you change it now and he is just a jag let him have the reins and he is hof. Its like when Washington took mcnabb wrong guy wrong play style and it showed Washington ruined his career. Dallas would do the same for manning.
Sado44 - February 7, 2012 via mobile
I think Romo would get far more than a 2nd.
Palmer just brought 2 1st’s and he is over the hill and not as good as Romo. Likewise look at what the Eagles got for the unproven Kolb.
Romo is better than either of them. If we were so foolish as to want to trade him, or had another QB to replace him and could let him go. I would expect the price tag to start with 2 1st rounders and a player.
Rena - February 7, 2012
NO MANNING MOJO
Lol
slickman26 - February 7, 2012 via mobile
Burnett and Carpenter
Say what you will but both are great in coverage…. something that you can’t say about James or Brookings.
W_Strunk - February 7, 2012
funny I wrote we would miss Carpenter and got roasted
I think he would have been better than James at this point
Musiccitynorm - February 7, 2012
I don't know if that's considered a compliment.
spm01 - February 7, 2012
It's not really,
I think Brady retired last year
Musiccitynorm - February 7, 2012
and Newman retired the year before that
RKG???? I think not
Musiccitynorm - February 7, 2012
This is a tough situation.
They can’t rely on James and Brookins even as backups, but the needs elsewhere trump ILB as a first or second round pick. They’ll find someone reasonable in FA to add some depth and draft someone in rounds 3-7 for additional depth. Crowder was pretty good with Miami and might be a good acquisition and might come at a reasonable price. Burfick in the third, if he slides, would be worth it.
pfloyd1 - February 7, 2012
If the sign Mario Williams
I’d be willing to take Burfcit in the 2nd. That pick would probably be made with a mind to run more 4-3 fronts. Front seven of Ware-Ratliff-Hatcher-Williams and Carter-Lee-Burfcit would be pretty badass.
TheBlueBaron - February 7, 2012
They're not signing Willims.
DIRE WOLF - February 7, 2012
agreed but it would be a sick front 7
yehti - February 7, 2012 via mobile
That WOULD be a REALLY sweet front 7. It’s doable too. But aint gonna happen.
StarloverinWNC - February 7, 2012
What really needs to be done to help the ILB's
is to get a BIG, high quality nose tackle (move Rat to DE) and keep the OL off of the ILbackers. This will also help in coverage since they will not always have to be so concerned about the run. Ray Lewis really struggled the year before Haloti Ngata arrived because the OL were getting to him and not allowing him to play the entire field.
We still need new ILB’s but they may struggle also, unit we address the NT position. Ratliff needs to be moved outside to a DE.
eightball - February 7, 2012
This is a key point
if they continue (as we know they will) to go with smaller, faster ILBs, it almost requires that they get a bigger, space-eating NT.
dunkman - February 7, 2012
wait I remember Carpenters pick six when he weaved in and out...
oh you mean making plays while with Dallas not just in Dallas?
starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 - February 7, 2012
Off topic butt
Jimmy Johnson used to say winning the division was the first and most important thing, so he built his teams to beat the Division Rivals letting the chips fall where they may, Our division is filled with pass rushers, the Eagles have Cole, and Babbin, the Giants have Osi, and Tuck, The Redskins have Kerrigan and Orakpo,,,,,
It is my opinion if we want to take advantage of Romo, Dez, and Murray we need to finish the o-line,,, I think Decastro puts us in a dominating position that negates divison rivals strengths and in the case of the giants and eagles it puts them at a disadvantage,,,, The Eagles and Giants are to small to survive a dominationg o-line and a big back like Murray pounding them, Smith, Free and Decastro are all strong and athletic enough to dominate both the combination of Cole and Babbin or Tuck and Osi or whoever, I think Orakpa and Kerrigan are different players,in truth probably better all around players,,,I see the need for corner, I don’t see the need for DE or OLB I would hate this pick early,
If Decastro is on the board and we pass on him I will throw up.
Musiccitynorm - February 7, 2012
Get the barfbag ready.
DIRE WOLF - February 7, 2012
I believe Jason Garrett understands this as well.
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
Me too.
thebigham - February 7, 2012
I'll fourth that...
Baloo. - February 7, 2012
The problem will
be if DeCastro and Janoris Jenkins are BOTH there. While Jenkins has more warts, he is the best cover corner in the draft. (and yes he is a better cover corner than both Claiborne and Kirkpatrick) We at least have hope about some of our young interior linemen. There is very little hope in that secondary as it is configured today. I say take the guard in FA. If you pay Nicks, for example, you KNOW both your run and pass games are better. THEN, you can go BPA with the secondary the biggest priority.
jevans1729 - February 7, 2012
I'll go with DeCastro
After Jenkins the drop off from him to Minnfield is not much. Minnifield is taller, has play making ability, and can cover in press, man, and zone.
The drop off from DeCastro to the rest of the G class gets us closer to more David Arkins and Bill Nagys. I trust one of those guys can become a starter, but not both. We need a quality interior lineman.
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
Janoris Jenkins
would be a top ten pick without his warts. Minnfield may be taller but he is also much slower and will get beaten over the top by fast WRs . Jenkins will run sub 4.4 at the combine and has already shut down top SEC WRs. We don’t need just any corner. We need a top shut down corner because currently we do not have one. As for the interior lineman, just pay Nicks and you can run left all day long.
jevans1729 - February 8, 2012
if were dead set on keeping buehler
change his postition to mlb, make him a special teams everyman
Also, Spencer could possibly fit as an ILB since he is not bad at coverage and good at stopping the run. But what do I know.
Nick Castillo - February 7, 2012
we need more help in the secondary
are we really looking to Beuhler for help outside of kicking?
AustonianAggie - February 7, 2012
if he is gonna waste a roster spot he may as well do it from a position he can help in some way. i like him as a fourth ilb (hopefully we grab a late rounder for depth) more than a useless second kicker, atleast we might recoup some of the damage.
Nick Castillo - February 7, 2012 via Android app
Spencer is a FA
So why wouldn’t he stay at his natural position and get a bigger payday and be a guaranteed starter somewhere, vs. getting signed to a small contract to switch to a less glamorous position and possibly be a rotation guy for the whole year?
ary201 - February 7, 2012
you do have a good point, but given his performace to date (solid, possibly slightly above average at times) i dont think that his phone will be blowing up with offers.
switching to ilb would put to use the skills he is good at rather than expecting him to produce sumilar sack numbers opposite of ware.
jist an idea though
Nick Castillo - February 7, 2012 via Android app
I really don't think we'll pick up an ILB
At least not with a premium pick or any semblance of a signing bonus. As I recall, last preseason many thought Orie Lemon had played his way onto the roster, and if the year on the practice squad did him any good, I think he will be a solid rotational guy and spot starter.
MilesAhead - February 7, 2012 via Android app
Back to the original post...
I think the OP was taking about depth at ILB, I agree, we are lacking depth there and either a 3-4 rd pick or a mid tier FA is needed and not so much because I’m unsure about Carter, I think he’ll be just fine but you can’t have just 2 ILB’s in a 3-4, you have to have 3 in case of injury or as we proved the last few games last yr, they need a breather if the D is always on the field in the 4th quarter. I wouldn’t label Lee or Carter as injury prone but injuries do happen. Even if it’s just a slight ankle sprain, Carter could be out 2 weeks, who takes his place? That’s the guy we’re talking about/looking for. He almost certainly has to have some Special Teams value as well. I think the kid from Arizona would be good in the 3rd rd and Carder would be in good 4-5 rd but we might be better off with a FA and there are some out there, you just have to convince them they are going to a “rotation” and not just being added for depth since everybody wants to be a starter these days. Doesn’t mean you have to rotate them regularly, just need to pay them enough to get here and give them some snaps here and there, if only to save Carter and Lee for the latter part of the season (and hopefully the playoffs).
Back to the thread drift…remember the Cowboys were up on the Pats AND the Giants with 5 minutes to go in the 4th quarter? Both games were easily winable and we all thought we should have won those games, right? JG’s conservative play calling against NE and the blocked FG (and Eli driving twice for TD’s in under 5 minutes) cost us a spot in the playoffs, right? I won’t get into the Detroit or NYJ or icing the kicker fiascos but we were literally 1 play away from the playoffs in 5 SEPARATE GAMES. If any of the plays that went against us, goes for us and we are in the playoffs where anything can happen, even a team that just barely got in can with the Super Bowl, see NY Giants this yr. Keep in mind, that was with the team we had last yr, so a few improvements can be quite huge for this team. We don’t have to (and can’t) sign Nicks, Meyers, Finnegan, and Williams. If we got 1 of them and a 2 good draft picks, that’s a huge improvement over last yr. Tell me this, if Demarco can run for 227yrds in a single game behind last yrs line, how many yrds would he have had if Nicks was blocking instead of Kosier or even Meyers instead of Costa? If we have Nicks, does JG run the ball a little more against Detroit and Romo doesn’t throw the game away? Does Nicks block JPP on the blocked FG? If we had Janoris Jenkins covering Victor Cruz, does Eli march down the field twice against us? If we had a 100% healthy Carter to cover Lesean McCoy and the guy with two last names from AZ, do we lose those games? I’m not being overly optimistic, just saying that we are closer to being a playoff team than the Rams are, we don’t need a total overhaul but, back to the original thread, we do need some depth in certain areas and that can be addressed in rds 3-7 and in FA. We absolutely MUST get 1 premium FA (I say Nicks so we aren’t forced into drafting Decastro and let Dockerry, Holland, Costa, Nagy, Arkin fight out the other spot) and hit on 2 draft picks as starters and 1 MUST be a starting or at least nickel corner. This isn’t asking alot, doesn’t break the bank and with a healthy Carter, Fiammetta, Demarco, and Lee, we won’t go 16-0 but 12-4 is very real.
The biggest wildcard in all of this, is not what other teams FA’s we sign but which of our own we do. Is Spencer back? If not, do we trust Victor Butler or do we need an OLB in rd 2? Is Bennett back or do we need another TE? Do we resign ANY of our OG’s? Would they dare resign Newman or Ball as a 3rd corner? Lastly, who backs up Romo? Draft talk is great, I love it, but Free Agency will determine our fate next yr. Just my $.02…
hjs1971 - February 7, 2012
ILB depth
Jerry Franklin from Arkansas 4th thru 6th rd. Guy has solid measurables, solid tackler and can cover. (6-1 241 4.60 40)
faniva - February 7, 2012
Interesting names KD!
A starting linebacker is definitely in the Cowboys off-season plans.
I’m intrigued by your list of names but I would expect the Cowboys to look for another Keith Brooking type, a guy that’s past his prime but team knows it can rely on to be a starter.
Blue Eyed Devil - February 7, 2012
Things that will not happen this off season
1) Dallas permanently switching the defense to 4-3. They’ll continue to give a 4-3 look every now and then, but it won’t be a permanent switch.
2) Mario Williams isn’t coming to town. Not going to happen. He will not move to a 34 DE; he’s either going to stay with Houston as their starting 34 OLB or go to a 43 team and play DE.
3) Michael Brockers will not get drafted. No way. No how. Not going to happen. The kid left early purely for a money grab against his coach telling him he needed another year to prove himself, and despite the fact the NFL scouts told him he’s no a first rd lock.
4) If Luke Kuechly is the BPA on Dallas’ board, expect a trade down. Yeah we need depth, but I just don’t see a 1st rd pick being used here, we need a veteran for depth.
5) Stephen McGee will not advance to the number 2 job behind Romo. He will remain the number 3 QB on the depth chart. He hasn’t shown himself to be a capable number 2.
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
almost forgot
6) Courtney Upshaw WILL NOT be drafted by the Boys. He’s short, fat, has short arms, and lacks any explosion. He’s undersized for 43DE and slow for 34OLB. I’ll pass. I don’t care about the fact he achieved the unimpressive feat of racking up high TFL #s against garbage option QBs in the SEC or on running plays. Pass rushers are judged first and foremost by their ability to take the QB down in a passing situation, not tackle runners in the back field.
Rohpuri - February 7, 2012 via mobile
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