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Averaging The Mocks: Dallas Cowboys Take Luke Kuechly

Every mock draft out there agrees that Andrew Luck is going to be taken first in the NFL draft.

That is the only player that there is any consensus on. After the Stanford Golden Boy, the opinions vary, and the deeper you go, the greater the variation. Given the never-ending cycle of mocks coming out, I started wondering if there might be some way to come up with an overall ranking that considered a variety of sources to give a "most likely" draft order for the first round - at least through the 14th pick that fans of the Dallas Cowboys are so interested in.

So I put together a table using 12 different mock drafts. They are (in no particular order), Russ Lande from the Sporting News, Wes Bunting of the National Football Post, Rob Rang and Dave Brugler of CBS Sports, the separate CBS prospect ranking (which is different from Rang and Brugler's mocks), SBN's Mocking the Draft, Walter Football, Drafttek, DraftAce, Chad Reuter of the NFL Network, Draft King, and Football's Future.

If those look familiar, it is because I went with mocks that have already been used here for other articles. It means I am talking about some sites that you may be familiar with. And that I was able to go to OCC's various posts on mocks to get the links.

But then I had to decide what to do with this information.

The madness behind my method after the jump.

Star-divide

Since I am primarily concerned with what player the Cowboys would likely wind up with, and am using BPA to decide the picks in order, I wanted to make sure I got at least to that 14th pick. But to make sure, I needed to go a little past that. I decided to take the top 20 picks from each mock. It made the math work out, and by that point the names involved were beginning to vary so much that I began to suspect that a dart board is one of the primary tools for people who write these things. To cover the top 20 slots, 12 mocks needed 38 names.

I then assigned a value to the slot each player was selected. The number 1 pick is worth 20 points, the number 2 is 19, and so on. Then it was a simple matter of completing a spreadsheet and plugging in the value for each player in each of the mocks, and coming up with an aggregate value for each player that had shown up.

Here is what I came up with (my "value" is in blue):

Selection Player Value Selection Player Value
1 Andrew Luck QB Stanford 240 20 Ryan Tannehill QB Texas A&M 31
2 Matt Kalil OT USC 218 21 Janoris Jenkins CB N. Ala. 27
3 Robert Griffin III QB Baylor 207 22 Mike Adams T Ohio St 18
4 Morris Claiborne CB LSU 202 23 Cody Glenn G Georgia 16
5 Justin Blackmon WR Ok. St. 187 24 Whitney Mercilus DE/OLB Ill. 15
6 Trent Richardson RB Alabama 152 25 Mark Barron FS Alabama 14
7 Quentin Couples DE NC 149 26 Alameda Ta'amu DT/NT Wash. 9
8 Riley Reiff T Iowa 129 27 Zach Brown OLB N. Carolina 9
9 David Decastro G Stanford 98 28 Don'ta Hightower ILB Alabama 8
10 Michael Brockers DT LSU 98 29 Orson Charles TE Georgia 7
11 Dre Kirkpatrick CB Alabama 98 30 Fletcher Cox DT Miss. St. 6
12 Johnathan Martin T Stanford 97 31 Peter Konz C Wisconsin 6
13 Devon Still DT PSU 93 32 Alshon Jeffrey WR S. Car. 6
14 Luke Kuechly ILB Boston C. 83 33 Dontari Poe DT Memphis 5
15 Courtney Upshaw OLB Ala. 75 34 Brandon Weeden QB Ok. St. 3
16 Michael Floyd WR ND 54 35 Vontaze Burfict ILB ASU 3
17 Melvin Ingram OLB SC 49 36 Coby Fleener TE Stanford 2
18 Kendall Wright WR Baylor 47 37 Mohamed Sanu WR Rutgers 2
19 Nick Perry DE USC 36 38 Alfonzo Dennard CB 1

This not only gave me a consensus order for the 12 mocks, but it also gave a way to show some relative strength from player to player. The closer together the numbers, the more likely, I would assume, that these positions might switch. For instance, the difference between RGIII and Morris Claiborne is only 5 points, so it would not be surprising to see them switch positions (assuming there is some credibility to this whole methodology). But the difference between Justin Blackmon and Trent Richardson is a whopping 35 points, so there order would seem to be pretty unlikely to reverse. Also, the later the picks, the smaller the difference, so it is not surprising that the value of prediction becomes less the further into the draft you go.

The darker blue squares show a tie between three names that have come up around here a lot: David Decastro, Michael Brockers and Dre Kirkpatrick, all with 98 points. It looks like those three guys could go in any order. Unfortunately, they all look to go before Dallas gets their pick.

The best player left for the Cowboys, based on the collective "wisdom" of these mocks, turns out to be Luke Kuechley, ILB of Boston. Not exactly a burning need - but Courtney Upshaw and Melvin Ingram are lurking very close for a possible trade down (the team could take Upshaw with some justification at 14, since he pretty close here). And DeCastro, Brockers and Kirkpatrick all might be in range for a trade, or could slip down.

I don't know if it is really more valid to use a composite like this, but I tend to think some of the less well-reasoned choices in the different mocks may cancel each other out here. I do think it may give a little bit better idea what players are in the Cowboys' range, and which ones are just too far away.

I like a couple of other things this does. I think it helps filter out players who are seen as outside the top 20 in most mocks, but get some unreasonable love in others. Ryan Tannehill is a good example, in that he was left off of 10 mocks, but showed up on the other two at the 6th slot! He still made the 20th pick in this average, but that at least got him far enough down to not affect Dallas' choice. I don't care about anything after that in this exercise.

I am going to be watching the mocks I have used here, and if things start to move, I may revisit this, particularly after the combine, when major movement is to be expected and things get a little more factual. Let me know if this interests you - I have done all the hard work on the spreadsheet already, so this will be easy to update.

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unique

This is an interesting perspective. I like it. I would definitely like to see this continue to be updated.

I agree, thanks for the work.

Give it a week or 2 after the combine and update it please.

different

Which is what I like about it. According to most of the Mock’s I’ve seen prior to this one, we would have to trade up in this scenario to get who most have us targeting at #14. DeCastro and Fitz, who I agree that neither will be their for us

In my eyes, this makes literally no sense.

It would suggest that you guys are giving up on Bruce Carter, one of the most physically gifted LB prospects last year. He was recovering from an ACL tear….you aren’t yourself for at least a year after one of those. Give him some time and I still think he could be special. He needs a chance.

No reason you should be spending a 1st round pick on an ILB. This is also after the fact that you have much more pressing needs than ILB anyway.

that's Philly's guy

Seems like

That's what everybody keeps saying

But who knows what the Walrus is going to do.

block pick

Just because Philly is picking right behind us and we don’t want them to have him, doesn’t mean we have to take him

The idea was to see who was BPA at 14

based on the idea of everyone else also picking BPA.

Not saying Dallas would want to take Kuechly – that’s just who would be the top player at our turn, based on what the mocks “think”.

well done

That was clearly accomplished

Ah, I understand now.

My mistake, Tom!

In that case Tom.....

I’m curious to see how this BPA board you have here would shake up if you were to a mock on it. If you haven’t already?

I don't do this kind of mock.

Mainly because I don’t think it would be credible. Just not that up to speed on the college players or what the other 31 teams are targeting – I would really be guessing.

modesty is an admirable trait

I thought it was as accurate as anything else I’ve seen to this point. As far as first round BPA boards go. That’s all this whole thing is until draft day is a “guessing” game.

This is based on an actual forecasting technique.

It may be called the Delphic method, but I’m not sure. You take a bunch of experts, get their predictions, and then see what they kind of average out to. It works to some extent when dealing with fairly stable systems, which the NFL basically is (you don’t have the equivalent of stock market collapses or threats to the oil market to upset the normal order of things – the draft and free agency happen every year).

The DoJ and DoD are actually looking at something similar using massive data mining of social networks to predict things like terrorist activity and uprisings in other countries. It will utilize computers, probably similar to the IBM Watson project, to look for discontent or shifts in behavior in large groups.

Kuechly is a great pick if Mario Williams becomes a reality
I agree and disagree
Kuechly is a great pick if Mario Williams becomes a reality

fixed it…kuchley is easily in my top 10 right now….I would take him in a heartbeat, and then let Cater move to Spencer’s position……

I agree.
Agreed

But the team would still have to sign a veteran 4-3 LB, in case Bruce Carter is not ready to start.

What to do you guys think about Cordy Glenn?

The dude could probably take over Kyle Kosier without a hitch.

big fan of this big guard

he moves very well on his feet and can get out on runs plowing over anything that gets in his way

plus he can play tackle if we need a fill in for an injured player

same. He's my favorite prospect that's some what realistically in the Giants' draft range
projects well

From everything I’ve heard and seen. At #14 considering DeCastro is gone and we are still targeting O-line at that point…..I gotta take Konz over Glenn, he’s the best C on the board and would be an upgrade at both G positions.

I can see why you'd prefer Konz over Glenn. You guys are set at both T positions.

I’d prefer Glenn for the same reason. You need upgrades at C and G. We could use a G and RT.

if Free is the guy

If we did go Glenn…. He would compete with Free for that tackle spot at the same time. Free seems like he would almost make a better G than T. Tron could be on the blind side this year. So I would be fine with either of them

That's true. Though a move back to RT would probably be the cure for what ailed Free last year
maybe

Don’t think it would have mattered what side of the ball Free was on against you guys. The rest of the league just came up the middle

Haha to be fair, JPP destroyed most all the tackles he faced this season

I think Free has problems with leverage. I think speed rushers with long arms can dip and swim by him, but he doesn’t have problems with power rushers. Tyron Smith has a lean frame and 36 3/8" arms….monstrous. He’s basically the prototypical LT

#14=best O lineman available

You’re team is the main reason why I want to get younger and stronger at O line.

Your team is why I wouldn't be opposed to having a few more DBs coming from this draft haha
tushae'

I’m sure that’s misspelled but…. That must mean that you think Thomas is leaving and you’re not too sure about Prince’s ability perhaps?

touche*

I’m absolutely sure about Prince’s ability. I think Ross leaves, and Thomas is coming off an ACL tear, and those take some time before you are back at 100%. I don’t want Prince and Corey Webster to be the only quality starters.

Ross?

Wow that’s the guy I thought you’d be wanting to retain. he played well especially in the post season. Don’t get me wrong I think it’s a great idea send him on back home we could use him.

haha. we're cap strapped, and Thomas is a better player than Ross.
haha

Ya I thought he was definately better than Ross before his injury. Its kinda hard for me to judge talent at DB since we have absolutely none of it that position. To be honest

Jenkins has been inconsistent and injured, but I thought he was decent this year...
Touché

or in your case touchée ;-)

Did someone say Shay?

To Shay?

My wife would be torqued, but the idea has appeal

not to mention Dallas already paid Free like a franchise LT

RTs aren’t that hard to come by these days but if Free can’t play like a probowler on the right side then that might be one the worst FA signings since R.Williams

this is so untrue

Free was paid for what he is..an all pro RT that can fill in as a LT….nothing more….
see here:
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2012/2/15/2801134/dallas-cowboys-myth-buster-is-doug-free-really-overpaid

Glenn is so athletic

He could move to G or play RT and allow us to put Free inside.

I think Glenn could be a possibility. I don’t see us drafting a C early unless we don’t address it in Free Agency.

your going to pay free like a LT & now kick him inside to Guard 1 year later?

Nicks wont get paid what Free did & obviously most people would take Nicks over Free at Guard.
if Free doesn’t pan out at RT thats a huge set back/mistake by the front office. also remember Smith hasn’t played LT in college or the NFL so theres nothing 100% that he’s going to be a stud

Free got overpaid

I won’t deny that don’t know what they saw in him to warrant the contact he got but I didn’t see it on the field. Tyron is a bookend T he won’t have any problem moving to whichever side.

You should have been on this board last year.

Most were screaming at Jerry for being so stupid about not franchise tagging Free and how we needed to pay him over $10 million a year.
Here is the thread announcing we had resigned him. You should get a real kick out of the first 2 comments/grifs.

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2011/7/26/2296704/cowboys-sign-doug-free-to-four-year-deal

I must have missed something Rena

This my first year on this board but I have always kept up on my Cowboys The best I can. That’s why it makes me wonder….. When in the heck did Free put in the work to be considered this “bookend/anchor” of a Tackle? Seriously for me it’s like I missed a year or something. That kind of money for him baffled me.

He was pretty good last year.

He stood up to all the big pass rushers he faced well. He was quite a bit worse this year.

In 2010 Free was damn good IIRC.

Tyron is gonna BEAST at LT you just wait and watch.

Devastation Incorporated @ #StoneColdTyron

DeCastro could be that interior piece that makes this Offense Elite for years to come.

My point is this…

Why half ass it? Finish the rebuild on the side of the ball that you started to address last season with your #1 pick and a 4th & 7th to groom. With #2-7 and an extra 4th comp pick 5 of those should be on D.

Mario Williams

Stop talking about him. He is not coming to Dallas, and I’m glad for it. He is not an All-World OLB like he is at DE. If we pick Kuechly it means we are staying as a 34 defense and we need to spend money on more than just a cute name at OLB.

why does this mean Dallas is staying 3-4?
Carter, Lee, Kuechly

thats 3 high draft picks in consecutive years on ILB. why would you do that unless youre staying at a 34 which requires twice as many ILB as 43. Especially considering we have 2 veterans already there.

what veterans?

I seriously doubt James and Brookings will be back

you doubt it

Lets see what happens =]

Nonsense!

Keith Brooking is young and spry….why, he has at least ten more good left in him….

- Red Grange

on the bench

That’s only spot I see Brookings in Cowboys uniform this year

He'd be a good coach, I think.

But no playing. No.

get younger for the same price

It probably wouldn’t take too much to bring him back. Mostly depends on Carter’s progression doesn’t it?

James could get a 1 year deal unless they take a flyer on Crowder
or you have 3 stud LB in a 4-3

Dallas also has James and Brook as FA. so this means 1-2 less LB needed if they go 4-3

there is definitely a chance he gets signed

Jerry Jones has already reminded everyone in the past weeks Mario Williams was their top rated player in the 2006 draft.

They have the $$$’s to get it done. They almost signed Nmandi last year with way less cap room.

Everyone who has already decided this can’t happen is being small minded about the situation.

small-minded and realistic.

Just because youre open-minded enough to pull it off on your Madden 12 franchise does not mean it will make sense or even work in real life. Why spend money just because we have it?? i would rather work on building a franchise through sound drafting and developing of players, not signing ones who have already experience their best days, coming off season-ending injuries.

technically they could do both.

sign some vets till you can draft replacements. not everything can get done VIA the draft

Technically we could do that,

I mean heck, Philly drafted Matthews last year along with signing all those players… lets just follow their blueprint!!! derf

beat Dallas.....
also are you comparing casey matthews and keuchly?
you never know

the draft is a crapshoot, but not so much as free agency. these arent the days of Charles Haley and Deion Sanders, the owners have figured out ways to not let these types of guys get away anymore.

i agree with that
I agree

It seems like the cowboys would get burned on the free agency signing of Williams.

now your just reaching...

I’ve already said on this blog many times it may not be the best idea to sign a guy who has finished the last two seasons on the IR. That being said if the Dallas medical team says he’s fine then I would have no problem adding one of the top 10 pass rushers in the league to our defense.

The guy is not trending down. He is in the prime of his career. Younger than D-Ware.

Your being small minded because your telling other people to stop talking about a topic which anyone with sense can see it’s worth debating. The comment had nothing to do with your opinion of Williams. Tere are reasons to say he is worth signing and otherwise and it’s nice hearing opinions on both sides.

i just think its silly to debate something that has 0% chance of happening

he might be 28 and no signs of trending downward, but that means its bound to happen once we sign him. also, he has been on the IR the past 2 seasons, and he has stated he wants to go to a 4-3 team. Which means we will be competing with teams for his services that are automatically willing to pay him $2mil./year, and thats before we even have to outbid them. so we’re looking at $12 mil./year for a player who has played half a year at his position that usually warrants $8 mil./year.

just saying it's silly to be saying it has 0% chance of happening
who doesn't love a big signing, especially a big splashy one?

But to me the question is, are we only one guy away? Cause Mario would command a pretty hefty amount of our cap space and yet we still need, from FA, a starting CB and a Center/Guard…and I don’t think we can afford all that if Mario comes to Big D.
I myself would prefer to utilize our cap money getting 2 guys along the D-line instead of just 1 Linebacker – possibly pick up Miami’s NT and a good DE (C. Campbell from Arizona or someone nearly as talented). That would give us a real good D-line and rotation guys. We would have more push up the middle and flexibility in formations.
-I am of the opinion that if you have outside rushers that speed rush outside then you have to have a push up the gut or the Qb will step up avoiding the hit/sack/disruption.

one guy away?

C’mon man we are so far
From being one guy away. That’s the thinking that’ll have us spend big money in FA on one guy when we need so much more.

Mario Williams is a special talent and a better rusher than anyone in the draft. He is also only 28

if the 4-3 is a real possibility, would it be that bad a pick?

how is keuchly compared to Lee coming out of college?

Kuechly is (by the general consensus at the time and now) a higher rated prospect than Lee.

Both have great fundamentals, tackling technique and instincts. People will say Lee was more athletic than Kuechly, but he’ll show up at the Combine, so they are about equal in that department. I distinctly remember injury concerns for Lee though, Kuechly has been a productive monster.

So at the end of the day, they are both comparable. In fact, Lee would be a perfect NFL comparison for Kuechly.

TY BBI

from a Giants fan how would u feel if Dallas drafted him? depending on D scheme it might be a possibility

From a Giants fan perspective, I'd be thrilled if you guys took him.

Not that he isn’t a great player…because I think he IS a good player. I think this way because:

1) I was, and still am, a huge Bruce Carter fan. I was beyond pissed that you guys got him. ACLs take forever to heal, and you aren’t the same for a bit after you tear it. Give it some time, and you’ll be back to normal. That’s been the case with Osi Umenyiora and Kenny Phillips. Drafting Kuechly means that you guys give up on him.

2) Since I think Bruce Carter can still be successful, it’d be a waste of a pick when there are sure to be other players that could fulfill needs that make your team a lot stronger. Upshaw, Still, Ingram, Perry, Coples…any pass rusher, really, would scare me the most. If you guys took Glenn or DeCastro or Konz, it would piss me off as well.

3) In the 4-3, having Kuechly and Lee would be redundant because they both would be all-pro MIKEs due to their intelligence. Putting one of them at OLB would not be efficiently utilizing one of their greatest strengths.

4) You take away the ONE player on defense that would probably have the greatest positive impact on the Eagles.

See

I agree with points 1-3. But if you consider your 4th point, doesn’t that help the entire NFC East to keep the Eagles from getting their star middle linebacker?

I’m not advocating Kuechly at 14, nor do I believe the Eagles break trend and take him, but I do think it’s worth consideration seeing how he completes their defense.

Even if Dallas took him, they could come back and trade him to San Diego who needs to find an upgrade over Takeo Spikes at the ILB position. Or the Cowboys could trade Kuechly to Detroit who has a need at MLB?

That way the Cowboys don’t end up with him, and the any possibility the Eagles take him is gone out the window.

Yeah, I'm just giving my opinon as a Giants fan. I see Kuechly as a marginal upgrade over a healthy

Bruce Carter. So the prospect of you guys using a first rounder on a marginal positional upgrade AND killing the chances of a rival team make this a great choice for me.

I tend to agree

that taking Luke Kuechly would be a marginal upgrade over Bruce Carter.

I have been told that this won't work

but I still think this is the best idea..

Dallas for all intents and purposes run a 4-3 defense..so how does drafting Kuchley subjugate Carter?

you move Carter to Anthony Spencers spot, and let Kuchley play along side Lee….

IF Ratliff moves to the LDE spot, and Lissmore and Brent take over the “NT” spot, is there really a need for a Dominat Passrushing ROLB?

just a thought….

You can never tell with andy reid

He may just go and get himself a 4.25 40 wr to replace Jackson with. Wright is a better than Jackson and if he is there I’d see them taking him and picking a lb in the second with one of there picks. I’d like to see how Zack brown does in the NFL with his size and a 4.3ish 40 he could be a really good rushing lb in the NFL .

WOW. This is Mike Mayock's view of Kuechly
Mayock compares Kuechly to Sean Lee. 2nd rounder who has become a Pro Bowler. Says Kuechly is a better athlete, less injury issues.

Basically same analysis as me. ::Pats self on back::: I’m awesome.

haha

He looks like a highschool linebacker in that picture. D:

I think this is interesting in that is shows where some of the talent dropoffs are.

Top 4 (Elite) – Luck, Kalil, RGIII, Claiborne
Blue-Chip – Blackmon, Richardson, Couples, Reiff
Top Teir – Decastro, Brockers, Kirkpatrick, Martin, Still, Keuchly
1st Rounders – Upshaw through Barron
Borderline 1st Rounders – Everyone else on the list

Will be interesting to see how this lists changes throughout the offseason

And this is what I've mostly been saying since January

Dallaa needs to use #14 and get either a falling blue chipper (if available) or a top tier player, unless the top tier player is Michael Brockers.

i'd put Upshaw & Ingram in the top tier over 1sr rounders
You know what that means?

Somebody AWESOME is gonna fall to us. If Tannehill goes in the top 12 were virtually guaranteed top 10 talent. Maybe even Coples is within reach.

My ‘realistic’ BPA for the Cowboys in 2012 Draft

1) Coples (trading up to #10 is as high as I would go)
2) DeCastro (Would consider trading up to #12)
3) Kirkpatrick (Would take if DeCastro is off the board)
4) Trade down scenario for Ingram, Jenkins, Konz, Glenn, or Richardson(ransom@14).

I would take Kuechly in a heartbeat.

We would have a very good chance of having the leagues most intelligent/hard nose LB core for the next decade. Move Ware to DE and you have a top 5 DL, coupled with a top 5 LB core… Makes too much sense, he is for sure going to be valued higher on JG’s draft board than Dre Kirkpatrick. If that is however they value him this high.

The problem is, this doesn't work like Madden.

You can’t just move guys around and assume they’re going to play to the best of their ability regardless of position. Rather than giving us two places of strength, that could just as easily leave us with both a weak DL and a weak LB corps. Plus we’d have done nothing to help our two biggest needs, OL and DB. To me that would be among the worst picks we could make, regardless of how good Keuchly may or may not ultimately be.

IMO, let our guys play where we know they can play, supplement via the draft with BPA for any of our actual need spots, and maybe sign a few solid FAs.

In any case, good work Tom! Definitely easy to see the dropoffs.

Tell you what

That picture of Keuchly above doesn’t inspire a whole lot of confidence from me. Look at dude’s arms, they look like mine before I started going to the gym religiously. Guy doesn’t look like he has that much muscle on him really.

Now look at Bruce Carter for example. I remember watching that dude’s first press conference at valley ranch and it looked like if he flexed his arms too much his shirt was going to tear wide open at the sleeves. Just sayin’ the dude might not be the most intimidating force on the inside in the NFL.

If having a ripped body was the only criterion to being a great player

The Rock would be in the NFL inside of making movies.

To be fair, he probably makes more money making movies....
actually, he would have played in the NFL if we was good enough

He went into pro wrestling and movies because he wasn’t good enough football player.

that's true. I'm sure he makes more money as of this point.

but yeah, your point remains true.

Not to mention it's a lot longer career.
The Rock was a good player for Miami back in the 1990s
not good enough obviously
actually if I remember correctly

Dewayne Johnson blew out his knee….which back them was basically a death sentence compared to now…..

if that hadn’t happened he might have been able to swing a pretty good career in the NFL..maybe not an HOFer but maybe a poor man’s Bradie James…..

Exactly ironman i don't know what

terry is talkin about the “people’s elbow” was a baller in college he could’ve made it in the pros.

It's also an old picture

Just was the best looking one available – I think it was from 2009, he may have beefed up since.

the more of these mocks/analyses I see

the more I think they’re better off trading down in the first for an extra 2d or 3d.

The shame of the ’09 draft—there should be 2-3 guys from that filling some of the holes Dallas has now; instead have to try and fill them all this year or more likely leave some unaddressed.

If Kuechly is the BPA at 14

The Cowboys trade down, add another draft pick, and move on.

For real.

LB isn’t that strong, but we have a lot more needs.

Your logic seems to conflict with your latest fanpost...

What if the Cowboys have Richardson and Kuechly kneck and kneck on their BPA board? Why does drafting a running back at 14 seem more reasonable than drafting a LB?

The last I check, the Cowboys will have 1 proven starting LB on their roster next year, compared to 2 RB’s. Not to mention that RB’s are just about a dime a dozen now a days in the league…not the same could be said for a young dominate LB core.

And I am by no means “giving up” on Bruce Carter…I understand his HIGH poential, but all that is right now is “potential”. No one knows any better than me if this kid will pan out or not. My dream come true for the Boys’ would be to switch to a 4-3 defense and acquire Kuechly right before the Eagles.

How does this front 7 look?: Kuechly-Lee-Carter, Ware-Lissy-Rat-M.Williams

A man can dream right? But honestly this front 7 would make an average secondary look great.

And I understand that some people find the Mario Williams talk crazy...

But the 4-3 switch may make Dallas much more appealing to him. Im sure in the back of his mind, he would LOVE to play opposite D.Ware…think of both of their sack productions without the constant double teams!

I’m keeping my fingers crossed that dallas is seriously considering the switch. I know its a long shot, but i just hope its a possibility.

Like Bigblue said above

Kuechly and Lee are the same player. It makes no sense to have both of them, even if there was a switch to 43 because they both are 43 MLBs.

I think you’ll see the Cowboys address depth at ILB with Lemon and a either a free agent or maybe a mid to late round pick.

I don’t think Kuechly and Richardson would be tied on Dallas’ board, Richardson is a bluechip talent, while Kuechly isn’t.

While I do tend to agree with your last statement...

you just never know how the Cowboys big board will look…I’f im not mistaken (and i hope i didnt make this up, and then convert it to truth in my head) The cowboys had Sean Lee ranked as their 2nd highest linebacker only behind Patrick Willis in the past [decade] (can’t quite recall how long) …and im sure no one would have suspected that S.Lee was ranked that high!

Im just saying we dont know where Kuechly could be on their big board…I just wouldnt be suprised if he was in the top 5.

And the argument that “they are the same player” doesnt really do it for me. Becuase i would sure love to have 2 Sean Lee’s flying around out there. And since they are both RKG’s then im sure one of them wouldnt mind giving up the play calling duties. 2 smart heads are better than 1 after all

trade down get an extra pick & add Upshaw or Ingram
Take Him if David DeCastro and Quinton Coples are Gone

Switch to the 4-3 and you got stud linebacking core with Kuechly, Lee and Carter. Stud defensive ends too with Ware and Ratliff. Say no to potheads like Kirkpatrick and Jenkins. The Boyz don’t need another Quincy Carter or Kareem Larrimore on their hands.

If David DeCastro is gone

I will shed a tear….

sniff…

+1000
Say no to potheads like Kirkpatrick and Jenkins

i’d take a flyer on the CBs in the 2nd, 3rd rounds & find 1 reasonable vet in FA.
i really like Routt bc he has the size to play press coverage & is a proven solid player that should come at cheaper price then some of the others

He looks more like a safety then a LB......What position did Woodson play in college?
Difference is, Woodson was a hell of an athlete.

Kuechley isn’t. Not that he isn’t athletic, but IMO he doesn’t show much that’d make me think he could make that jump. Then again, I haven’t watched him all that closely.

spm01 and Floyd Mayweather

hmmm.

Go to your room.

Seriously though, do you think he’s athletic enough to play safety? I don’t, and it has nothing to do with race.

Not to mention I fail to see the connection there, anyway.

I am just kidding - sorry bad joke

But the unathletic comment and that terrible picture of a skinny little white kid that David Buehler could probably steam roll just had me falshback to stupid Floyd.

Jeremy Lin should simply state – “Floyd Mayweather should go fight Pac-Man before he comments on my game.”

Lin-Sational!

No problem, it's cool.

And that’s what Dan Patrick said today. Make the Pac-Man fight happen, then he can talk. ’Til then, just shut up.

Didn’t mean to imply that he wasn’t athletic, by the way. He’s more than athletic enough to play his position. He’s even pretty good in coverage for a LB. I just don’t think he could cut it at safety. Gives me flashbacks of Biscuit getting burned about sixteen times a game. Not that they’re that similar.

If the Cowboys set their sights on Kirkpatrick and he falls past ten

The Philadelphia Eagles have enough picks to trade up from 15 and “Swoop” in to grab the cornerback.

The Eagles love to “swoop” when it comes to Cowboys and CB’s…

“Swoop, swoop, swoop….right Eagles fans….swoop!”

Seriously – If the Eagles trade up to jump ahead of Dallas in the draft I will break my TV if the Berman uses the term “swoop”

So lame….

the Eagles are set at CB from what i thought.

maybe they need a slot CB in the later rounds but with DRC, NNamdi & Samuels they seem pretty set

to me it looks like OLB, Center & CB are high on the list

they could possibly find one of those players in the draft but wouldn’t surpise me to see Dallas bring in 2 of the 3 listed above in FA.
Meyers, Routt & Upshaw/Ingram/W.Mercilus (the ILL OLB).
Konz, Routt, roll with Butler at OLB or resign Spencer

I would be okay with this.

You can never have enough great players. Whats better than 1 sean lee.. 2 sean lee.

I can't believe no one has done it this way before.

Consensus picks are huge in betting. Great job transferring that to the mock drafts. Please update this after the combine and pro days.

Surely somebody has done it somewhere.

Just glad to think of it first here – at least this year.

I have no problem with this, 2 dominant ILBs can be a very good thing

Look at Urlacher and Briggs in Chicago.

If the Cowboys think Bruce Carter is a complete bust no reason to waste any more time on him. Draft his replacement and let’s move forward.

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