Over the past couple of weeks, the draft talk has switched into high gear, here and everywhere else among Cowboys fans. And as we all get acquainted with this year's draft class, everybody has a different method for forming an opinion about a given prospect.
Some of us put great weight in what draft analysts have to say, some form conclusive opinions from watching snippets of college highlights on youtube, some put a lot of emphasis on measurables like height, weight and speed, and others look at college production as a way to evaluate prospects. And the Combine in four week's time will provide even more data points for everybody, regardless of your preferred method of evaluating prospects.
None of the approaches described is necessarily wrong, but they are all missing one key ingredient that happens outside our purview, that we are not privy to and that carries a significant weight in every team's draft decisions: prospect interviews.

At the Combine, NFL teams get to interview up to 60 prospects for 15 minutes each. Prior to the Combine, teams submit the names of the players they want to talk to, and the interviews are scheduled throughout the duration of the Combine.
Typically, these interviews would focus on a player's character, mental aptitude and their overall football intelligence. Many of the prospects have already spoken with scouts during various College All-Star games, but for many underclassmen, this is the first time they get personal with an NFL team, and as a result, the underclassmen are the players that usually get the most interviews at the combine.
This is especially true for players that have raised flags during the scouting process for any number of reasons, including - but limited to - medical issues, questions of maturity, run-ins with the law, general 'character concerns' or drug issues.
Last year, CBSsports published a scout's poll of 15 high profile players who had a lot riding on their interviews for various reasons:
After the Combine in early April, teams are allowed to invite up to 30 national prospects for further interviews to their facilities. In the past, these interviews have been a good indication for who the Cowboys will eventually pick in the draft. The Cowboys' last six top picks - Bobby Carpenter, Anthony Spencer, Felix Jones, Jason Williams, Dez Bryant and Tyron Smith - all visited Valley Ranch as part of the Cowboys' pre-draft visits.
Additionally, teams are allowed to bring in an unlimited amount of local prospects for pre-draft interviews. The Cowboys host these "Dallas Days" for draft-eligible players with roots in the Dallas-Fort Worth region.
So there will be a lot of interviews done before the draft boards are finally set. If you look at the list of names above, you'll likely remember a 'concern' about almost every one of those players last year, an I'm using the word 'concern' to cover just about anything. For Tyron Smith for example, the 'concerns' were about whether he could bulk up to 300+ pounds while maintaining his athleticism and about whether a then 20-year old was mature enough to play in the NFL.
Today, we are very happy that the Cowboys did not let those 'concerns' deter them from selecting Tyron Smith.
This year, there are once again players that have 'concerns' attached to them, again for a variety of reasons ranging from medical to legal that I won't get into here. Here's a shortlist of some of these players:
Based on their skills, any of these players would make a good addition to the Cowboys roster. But whether they even make it onto the Cowboys big board is something that will likely be determined via the player interviews.
The term "character issues" gets thrown around way too much and much too indiscriminately. Some guys deserve the label, but many guys get it due to a misguided moral certitude that's unilaterally applied. Who and what exactly determines if someone's character is flawed or if a person is of questionable moral integrity?
Personally, I'm glad the teams make these decisions in their interviews and not some holier-than-thou reporter gleefully reporting the latest click-generating scandal. The key question is, do any of these 'concerns' influence a prospect's future effectiveness as a professional football player and teammate? If not, put the guy on your big board, Jerry.
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I think these interviews are the most important to Garrett
who only wants his RKGs.
Terry - January 29, 2012
You have no idea if these interviews are important to Garrett so don't pretend that you do
Seanrude - February 1, 2012
???? Is Dez the RKG or the WKG?
all the interviews we did can’t keep him from looking for trouble.
I know he had a rough childhood but this stuff has to stop sometime.
He get injured too much.I wonder how this speaks to his dedication to a training regimen?
TCB Orange Dino - January 29, 2012
Does Dez get busted for DUI?
Does he get caught with weapons?
Drugs?
Animal abuse?
No.
You people greatly over exaggerate what Dez does and it’s ridiculous. Everytime Dez is on the field he plays HARD. You see he has the passion for the game by his play on the field. Even on special teams.
BrickTop - January 29, 2012 via mobile
He's an 21 year old idiot that was bad with money.
I’m sure all of us would do dumb things with money if we were in the same situation.
Omar Little - January 29, 2012
Theres people
from all ages that are bad with money. That’s a personal matter though and shouldn’t be used against him as a football player.
BrickTop - January 29, 2012 via mobile
I wasn't aware that Dez went looking for trouble.
Dez needs some maturity, but he is hardly a trouble maker.
His coaches have said repeatedly that he is a hard worker, he is obviously passionate about the game and he goes around trying to fire guys up during the games. AKA taking on a leadership/motivational role.
I agree with Brick, people way blowup a few silly, minor things that if he wasn’t wearing a star would never even be known.
Rena - January 29, 2012
Off the field not a real problem so far,
his routes have too get better, and he needs to beat the jam at the LoS. A full off season should make a big difference………I hope
DIRE WOLF - January 29, 2012
this will be his first spent part of the rookie off season hurt too.
So yeah def think that a full offseason will get this kid exactly where he needs to be. He is showing progression in the right direction and should be at full Star power in his 3rd season as is the case with most WRs.
Cowboys_Attack - January 29, 2012
He needs to work on his diet and conditioning
He eats fried sea food, hooters, and everything else too. He’s not one of us! I kinda wish TO was still around to train with him.
Omar Little - January 29, 2012
Yeah, I wouldn't call Dez a WKG
I agree with you, he has some maturity issues and I think that is a part of his competitiveness. Dez doesn’t take crap from anyone, on or off the field. I think sometimes he makes some poor judgements and then thinks people are singling him out or judging him without good cause, and he kicks against the bricks pretty hard on that stuff. But that will change as he gains better perspective and more maturity imo.
pjohn56 - January 29, 2012
There's bellhops that wouldn't carry Roy Williams' gear, I mean lets be honest.
He stands up for himself and demands that he be treated like a man. I say that’s a hell of a thing to do. He still has work to do but it’s his second year in the league, and he’s entering his second full offseason, who doesn’t have work to do at that point?
Omar Little - January 29, 2012
He's not a WKG... especially the pick we got him for
He doesn’t look for trouble, but he has a lot of maturing to do all the same. And his injuries are a result of his playing style, although there have been echoes that he’s not conditioned as he should be. Not having an offseason was as hard on him as the rookies, and 2012 is a potential breakout year. Then again, it potentially isn’t…
Lord Humungus - January 29, 2012
He gets injured sometimes just because he's so strong. One man can't get him to the ground very often. While in the grasp, on
coming tacklers can really get big hits on him. I would rather that he realize that sometimes he should just hit the deck, and live for the next play.
CowboyMan - January 29, 2012
good stuff OCC
glad you included S Janzen Jackson, really talented player that I know I would take a shot on late
Archie Barberio - January 29, 2012
actually first time i've seen him mentioned.
Suprising given our extreme need for a legit FS where is he projected to go? Great write up OCC here’s hoping we do as well as we have the last 2 drafts this year!
Cowboys_Attack - January 29, 2012
idk where he goes in the draft
character concerns
he was dismissed from Tennessee but is very talented
Archie Barberio - January 29, 2012
Character concerns are putting it very lightly
He managed to hit every red flag for teams. I do not know if there was 1 scout who looked at him this year.
Birddog26 - January 29, 2012
Ouch, not good for him. But you get what you ask for sometimes.
Rena - January 29, 2012
damn
Rohpuri - January 29, 2012 via mobile
Whoa no wonder I hadn't heard about him yet.
Cowboys_Attack - January 29, 2012
yeah, he was the second coming of eric berry according to some
ratware - January 29, 2012
I noticed him doing my mocks for OCC's challenge.
Be interesting to see if the team talks to him. Talent-wise, he seems to be worth investigating. And he fills a need. But the interview process would need to be very direct and critical.
Tom Ryle - January 29, 2012
Loved it OCC
I am going to do an indepth post talking about the interview process in my Scouts View posts. By the time the Senior Bowl hits the prospect has already interviewed 2 to 3 times by the teams scouts. Also this interview process goes way beyond just the player but also includes just about anyone who he had regular contact with throught his involvement in sports along with anyone else who has had contact with him
Birddog26 - January 29, 2012
Great info, OCC ( as usual )
And I agree with Terry about JG and his quest for RKG’s. The interview is the most important part of the hiring process (there is that word again) in determining RKG’s ahead of previous coach’s reports and anecdotal info from former player peers. We’ll see in the results of this upcoming draft whether or not JG is calling the shots or not. Let’s be clear. If there are character questions (not a RKG) surrounding Dallas’ top picks then it’s fair to conclude that JJ, not JG is still driving the draft. This team’s lack of RKG’s is a huge impediment to moving forward, i.e. more w’s.
stubabe - January 29, 2012
I dont think you can
“Assume”
anything about who is driving the draft because it “is” and has always been about “Concensus”.Whoever we pick will be the guy that is the “concensus” pick by all the War room team. That is the way the GM has set it up to be. We have Felix because JG was able to get concensus on taking him over Mendenhal, and we have Demarcus Ware at pick 11 because Bill Parcells was not able to get concensus on taking Spears ahead of Ware.
You know what happens when you “Assume” dont you?
CoachGary - January 29, 2012
Assume
Makes an ass out of u and me ass u me
Sado44 - January 29, 2012 via mobile
Don't forget that Garrett's RKG is more about passion and work ethic.
He doesn’t care as much about whether they are choir boys off the field. Obviously, he doesn’t want people who get into trouble, but he is not going to let their past transgressions keep them off his radar.
Tom Ryle - January 29, 2012
THe other word he uses is
“smart”. Not saying these guys are or are not, but I think he’s as tired as we are of guys who don’t seem to know what they’re doing in the field.
dunkman - January 29, 2012
that might be a good sign for a Vontaez Burfict
Rohpuri - January 29, 2012
The players with motivation concerns
Like Coples, I think they’ll be able to have an easier time explaining their situations.
From watching NFL Network’s Senior Bowl coverage, it looked as if Coples has Butch Davis in his corner. Barring info I don’t have, it looks like a plus for Coples.
Burfict, I don’t know if motivation is a problem, I think it goes to maturity and controlling his emotions. This guy is an enigma, I’d love to be a fly on the wall when he interviews with teams.
Rohpuri - January 29, 2012 via mobile
For Burfict I wrote ‘motivation’ in the sense that he may have a surplus of motivation on the field. I didn’t want to get into specifics on each player, so I tried to keep the descriptors uniformly nondescriptive…
One.Cool.Customer - January 29, 2012
Got it
I like the phrase “surplus of motivation” turns his negative (too much aggression/emotion) and kind of makes it a positive.
Rohpuri - January 29, 2012 via mobile
Burfict
I heard they just flew him in for games!
Lord Humungus - January 29, 2012
lo
Rohpuri - January 29, 2012 via mobile
Judging from some
of the things I’ve read a psychiatric evaluation might explain some of Burfict’s behavior. He supposedly has tremendous mood swings (bipolar?). Also, coming from a super tough urban environment surely didn’t help.
jevans1729 - January 29, 2012
OCC this was a really good post.
I don’t need 53 angels playing for my football team. Those on the list that OCC posted are some of the most talented players in the draft. If you could draft Janzen in the 4th you do it. He is one of the most instinctive players in the draft. At the end of the day talent trumps “most” problems.
Coples will be a top 10 pick. There isn’t a coach in the nfl that doesn’t think ‘they’ couldn’t get the best out of him. If all of these guys are off of the Dallas big board because they aren’t angels then Dallas is making a huge mistake. To me a RKG is a straight up baller. A player who shows up Sunday and does his job.
football mensa - January 29, 2012
Hell yeah
BrickTop - January 29, 2012 via mobile
lot more to it than just ballin
The RKG also has to have the right attitude and self motivation to work hard and be his best on and off the field.
To acquire the WKGs would be a mistake.
Terry - January 29, 2012
Terry I think urs & mensa's statement sorta go hand in hand
if a player “shows” up & does his job on sun then more than likely he will have had the right attitude/motivation to work hard on & off the field.
DarkKnight88 - January 29, 2012
but there is a diiference between ballin in college and the NFL
At this level, there absolutely has to be the right kind of attitude and hard work because players simply can’t get by on talent alone like they could in high school and college.
Terry - January 29, 2012
ur talking about 2 different things i didn't mention anything between
the differences of college & the pros its like i said above if an nfl player shows up & does his job on sun then he will have had to gone thru all the hard work/preparation being the “RKG” during the week just to be @ the game in the 1st place… U & mensa i think were saying pretty much the same thing u just being a lil more descriptive.
DarkKnight88 - January 29, 2012
I always like garretts right kinda guy talk
But in reality a good hard nosed coach can get even the wkg to put in his 120 every single day. So rkg makes coaches life easier but shouldn’t be eliminated cause of it. Coaches have to know how to get players to understand and live and breath what they preach. Cowher was the best at getting trash to play like gods. Lets see if Jason can too.
Sado44 - January 29, 2012 via mobile
Janzen was thrown off his college team this year. Reportedly for repeatedly failing drug tests.
He left the team last year to get it together and was let back on with a set of conditions attached. He couldn’t keep those terms and was finally booted off the team.
http://www.rockytoptalk.com/2011/8/24/2381613/on-janzen-jackson-and-derek-dooley
Rena - January 29, 2012
Janzen played for McNeese St in 2011.
He is from Lake Charles La. There is a lot more to the story than just what the media says. And no I won’t go into what I know.
football mensa - January 29, 2012
You're such a tease.
Omar Little - January 29, 2012
Omar La. is my home st. I am cajun thru and thru.
Anyway I have a lot of connections in that area.
LOL @ tease. I should be in the media.
football mensa - January 29, 2012
Oh I believe you
Just don’t leave us with blue balls like that. :p
Omar Little - January 29, 2012
HAHAHAHAHA
Well said!
Cowboys_Attack - January 29, 2012
Mensa are you talking the armed robbery, his severe drug addiction and failed rehab attempts
Or some of the toher things that have not been reported?
Birddog26 - January 29, 2012
how did this guy find time to play football?
damn, this sounds like a kid we’d have taken on those 1990s teams.
Rohpuri - January 29, 2012 via mobile
Bird you missed one bro. I can't divulge.
football mensa - January 29, 2012
I do know of two major incidents that have not been reported
Birddog26 - January 29, 2012
like I said, I'm shocked the kid found time to play football
with his extra curricular activities.
Rohpuri - January 29, 2012 via mobile
When he titty twisted that one legged Czechoslovakian midget hooker while riding the goat?
That’ll get you kicked off ANY team.
Nickthegrip - January 29, 2012
That was some grip he had on her Nick
Rohpuri - January 29, 2012 via mobile
lol nick hahahaaaa
IRONRAVEN - January 30, 2012
I know. I miss Juarez too....
dunkman - January 30, 2012
Ok, let me rephrase slightly.
He started the preseason on the TN team, and was thrown off 10 days before the first game.
Rena - January 29, 2012
Motivation is the difference between an average ball player and a great one........See Lee
DIRE WOLF - January 29, 2012
Despite Jenkins' drug problems, no one will say he isn't motivated
Lissyyyyy - January 29, 2012
He scares me @ #14.
DIRE WOLF - January 29, 2012
it all depends on his interviews.
If he can show that he has learned from his mistakes then you take him at 14. From my understanding he has stayed clean since being at N. Alabama. If something comes out about him or he interviews poorly then you pass on him in the first and take the risk if he falls to you in the second.
mho - January 29, 2012 via iPhone app
It's ok saying the right things at an interview,
but can you do those things during an NFL career ?.
these are decisions that make or break a Coaches career.
scotscowboyfan - January 29, 2012
he's stayed clean for a year
it shows he can mature
Lissyyyyy - January 29, 2012
can you trust that he has stayed. clean
or is just easier not to get caught when playing for a small time school
just4fun - January 29, 2012 via Android app
I am positive he stayed clean
Birddog26 - January 29, 2012
why? how do you know he hadn't been burning weed and not getting caught.
just4fun - January 29, 2012 via Android app
The kid could not turn around with having to take a drug test there
I spent a whole lot of time in Florence scouting and investigating him. Myself along with a number of other scouts. You would be suprised at the lengths that were taken to make sure this was fully answered.
Birddog26 - January 29, 2012
thanks Bd 26 ,
nice to hear teams do due dilligence on guys that might cost millions.
scotscowboyfan - January 29, 2012
excellent insight
Rohpuri - January 29, 2012 via mobile
you are a luminary here birddog
i can’t believe you’re a scout, that has to be the closest position to football from anyone here, unless david lafleur is the real one, can you tell me please, is janoris a thug? or just a guy who smokes some weed?
ratware - January 29, 2012
He smoked weed and had some maturity issues
He has had a very good support network in Florence with both the University and the city leaders there. He is a kid who realized what he did was wrong and straightned out. He is a very honest and humble guy.
Birddog26 - January 29, 2012
Thats really refreshing to see
So often they let their stardom get to their heads and just become dbags glad to know its still possible to learn from ones mistakes and be successful too.
Cowboys_Attack - January 29, 2012
that's the image protrayed at the Senior Bowl
He said he’s not making excuses, and will tell scouts, gms, and coaches the truth about his situation. Seems to be very upfront about what happened ant not making excuses.
Rohpuri - January 29, 2012 via mobile
thermal way are some teams saying he has major problems and won't draft him?
just4fun - January 29, 2012 via Android app
should start then why. stupid phone
just4fun - January 29, 2012 via Android app
Can you trust
That half the cowboys wasn’t in business with hurd.
Sado44 - January 29, 2012 via mobile
Good post. we're truly in the dark as far as in depth character concerns go.
just4fun - January 29, 2012 via Android app
With Hurd being so recent
Jerruh is going to be reluctant to pick anyone who has any history of drug problems
burmafrd1944 - January 29, 2012
Hurd was a very special variety of idiot
Not all drug users are the same.
Omar Little - January 29, 2012
Special Variety of Idiot
Good one. Can we include Marty B on this list?
Rohpuri - January 29, 2012 via mobile
Different type of idiot.
But yes he’s a dumbass not the usual type either, unfortunately. He’s a great blocker, I have a feeling that if his name wasn’t Marty B we’d all be okay with him.
Omar Little - January 29, 2012
fair enough
I guess Sherman Williams can be the Special kind of Idiot too. “In 2000 he was sentenced to seven years in prison for three counts of conspiracy to distribute marijuana and a separate plea for passing counterfeit currency.”
(source, his wikipedia page, yes I was shocked to know he had one too).
Rohpuri - January 29, 2012 via mobile
Yeah any time you want to sell drugs and are an NFL player
There’s something wrong with you…too many stories of high profile individuals that can’t sell drugs without getting caught.
Omar Little - January 29, 2012
Yet Nate got a very small sentence in comparison.
Nate was totin some lbs and I’m not talkin flesh.
football mensa - January 29, 2012
Nate got busted twice
In the span of a month for possessing over 170 pds of weed.
Back in November-December 2001
Rohpuri - January 29, 2012 via mobile
Hmm, Jackson isn't on the NFP big board, anyone have a quality scouting report?
DEL1SLE - January 29, 2012
It will be very hard to get a scouting report on him
No one I know of even looked at him this year.
Birddog26 - January 29, 2012
If he is really fast
and/or has great ball-hawking skills, I would take a chance at him in the 4th round, but no higher.
YOU HAVE TO ABSOLUTELY HIT ON YOUR TOP 3 PICKS!
Last year….Smith, Carter, and Murray. We absolutely know about Smith and Murray, and I have a gut feeling that Carter is right choice at 2 also.
CoachGary - January 29, 2012
Just say no.
Rena - January 29, 2012
It's interesting that all of the Alabama potential early 1st rounders have issues, either legal, Barron, Upshaw or drugs, Kirkpatrick.
You can’t fix stupid! I hope they check out in interviews or out 1st round talent pool at #14 will shrink.
pfloyd1 - January 29, 2012
Wonder how much the atmosphere of the school played.
Not meaning to pick just on ’bama. Some schools are almost enablers, helping players cover stuff up and not holding them accountable. BD26 talked about how hard it is to find out anything at the Florida schools in another thread. That kind of stuff seems to just be asking for trouble.
Tom Ryle - January 29, 2012
FSU, Miami, and UF are tight lipped about what goes on.
That’s why it was a big deal when Yahoo Sports’ interview with Nevin Shapiro about the Miami team from 2003 to pre Al Golden years. Players getting compensated with strippers, cash, shoes, jewlery, cars, parties.
The last story I remember to come out of FSU was the Dillard’s Dpt Store scandal from 1999/2000 when Peter Warrick and Lavernius Coles allegedly got clothes at substantially marked down prices.
Rohpuri - January 29, 2012 via mobile
Wow i completely forgot about that FSU incident
Peter Warrick n Lavernius geez i haven’t heard those names in a minute.
DarkKnight88 - January 29, 2012
yup
Rohpuri - January 29, 2012 via mobile
You don't pay much attention to the news then?
Being an FSU alumni I hear about it all. FSU was sanctioned by the NCAA for cheating scandal just a few years back cost Bobby Bowden a few wins to his legacy. The issues with some schools hiding information about students. I’m going to have to say that’s country wide not just Florida, Alabama, or Texas. USC got nailed for the deal with a player taking money that cost them a National Title and Reggie his Heisman. Ohio State just got nailed by the NCAA, Miami is under investigation and will probably get some heavy sanctions. Florida … has been sanctioned twice by the NCAA for violations, FSU just released to players for stealing. The Scandal with Peter Warrick wasn’t school wide is the reason it didn’t really get that much attention… it was two guys that were friends and had a girl friend that worked at the store who gave them extra discounts. They were just stupid enough to take them. Schools are not ultimately responsible for the actions of their stupid players, but they have a responsibility to the University if it’s been discovered to report it. FSU always does that… they reported Warrick and Coles, they reported the Cheating scandal and then accepted whatever the NCAA ruling would be. When a School gets caught knowingly hiding those transgressions is when the NCAA comes in and really lays down the lumber and pops the school with heavy sanctions. Miami is going to get those in the coming year or so.
Rex Pfister - January 30, 2012
Richardson and Hightower have no issues, and are also projected first round.
Upshaw and Barron’s run ins with the law were both bizarre circumstances- Upshaw was arrested for domestic violence, but the charges were dropped almost immediately, and the girl involved said there was no physical abuse, just a heated fight. Now, some people think there was pressure on her to say so, but there is no way of knowing there. Mark Barron was arrested for obstruction of justice, which ended up being that he told officers his cousin hadn’t been at his apartment that day when he had. A bit shady, but we’re still not talking armed robbery or assault. Dre Kirkpatrick… is just dumb. Not for smoking pot, but for doing it so close to the combine.
TexaninNYC - February 4, 2012
And Mark Barron's was a misdemeanor. The fine was $500.
TexaninNYC - February 4, 2012
I wouldn't select either Jenkins or Kirkpatrick in the first rd at all
First rd players have to be clean, those guys certainly are not clean.
Terry - January 29, 2012
If they pass drug tests
they are clean by definition of the word. If a team wants to have a policy that it will not draft players with prior drug arrests/convictions fine. Other than that, if a player gets busted for drugs in the NFL, the penalty is the same regardles of their draft position. It is a cop out for a team to say “Well, he’s a first round talent but because he had a prior drug arrest, I won’t take him until round X.” If a team is that afraid of a player who smoked marijuana 2-3 years ago, then don’t take him at all. Allow another team who is willing to draft the player where his talent warrants draft him which is better for everyone.
jevans1729 - January 29, 2012
I understand your point on this....
but I think for most teams it is the amount of money that 1st round picks get makes adding players with drug problems risky….when you get to 2nd-7th picks, it make it much easier to cut them. No team really wants to put in a “zero tolerance” rule because you just never know what position you might be in.
I am always willing to look at talent with warts (off the field issues) when we get to the 3rd-7th rounds. These are the rounds to take chances on talent that can pay off. There is plenty of talent in the 1st that can be had without the extra risk of drug use.
death of the cool - January 29, 2012
jevans & death u have outstanding points n i can see both sides of the spectrum
DarkKnight88 - January 30, 2012
"It is the money....."
Really??!! First of all, look at the actual GURANTEED money those first rounders get from the uber rich billionaires. It’s tip money to these owners. The money argument just doesn’t hold up. However, praying on the poor urban youth who smokes some pot when he is 19, provides the skilled businessman an opportunity to exploit the situation. If the kid is clean, handles his interviews well, etc., he should get drafted where his skill level warrants. If the owner is against the prior drug use, don’t draft the kid.
The problem with doing it as you have outlined is that if the player outperforms his intitial “low balled” contract, you have zero shot at keeping him when he becomes an All-Pro. Of course then he is a “greedy, spoiled, athlete” in the eyes of the media when he tests the FA market. Only in America.
jevans1729 - January 30, 2012
This is a strawman argument
Teams aren’t going to disqualify a guy who tried pot. But they are going to look hard at ANY red flag, whether it’s pot, or bar fights, or money issues. All of those raise the possibility of intelligence issues, maturtiy issue or continued legal problems. For example, a DUI itself isn’t going to prevent being evaluated and drafted at a certain position, but only after they’ve done due diligence to determine if he’s an alcoholic or a risk to get suspended for continued abuse.
Terry’s blanket statement may not reflect reality, but you can bet they will scrutinize any issues that surface. You may think it’s tip money, but these guys didn’t get rich by being stupid with their cash. Not to mention salary cap and team reputation at stake.
dunkman - January 30, 2012
I'd add my boy DeCastro to this list too.
Melvin Ingram as well. DeCastro because he is a guard, and at 14 that is pretty high for a guard under most circumstances, the Cowboys need be absolutely positive that he’s willing to put in the work and training to do what it takes to become a Steve Hutchinson or Allen Faneca type player. Ingram for the reason they need to know how comfortable he’d be rushing standing up or changing his role in a defense.
Omar Little - January 29, 2012
I don't think I'd ever question the work ethic
Of someone who made it at Stanford.
Rohpuri - January 29, 2012 via mobile
Well I'm not questioning it
I agree a guard at 14 requires extraordinary circumstances, you need to be as sure as you can there.
Omar Little - January 29, 2012
Yes you have to be dilligent
I just think the process for verifying DeCastro’s RKG credentials shouldn’t be as laboring as it might be for some other players.
Basically interview all his coaches, and sit down with the man himself.
Rohpuri - January 29, 2012 via mobile
Absolutely
I mean watching his game footage it looks like he takes it personally when a tackle thinks he can beat him, so I’m pretty sure it won’t be THAT hard, but still. Due diligence, cross your "t"s and dot your "i"s
Omar Little - January 29, 2012
Stanford is one of the easy places to scout.
Jack Betcha wrote a great piece on the Stanford program that is well worth the read.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Stanford-Football-A-Brand-New-Image.html
Birddog26 - January 29, 2012
great read
Harbaugh was influenced by Bo Schembechler at Michigan. I like the comparisons of Stanford to a Big10 team, they play like it.
Even though they have the best QB prospect in the draft, they won with a ground and pound mentallity, with Luck doing his Peyton Manning/Tom Brady routines at the LOS. The RBs and Tight Ends dominated that offense, especially after speedster Chris Owusu got hurt.
Birddog, what are your thoughts on Delano Powell as an NFL prospect at Safety?
Rohpuri - January 29, 2012 via mobile
Only question?
Why is everyone or at least most of ya’ll saying a Guard at 14 is unusual. Sure normally teams don’t take guards at 14 but over the last 20 years a number of Guards have been taken before the 14th round. In fact there has been a Guard taken almost every year close to that position since 2005 … Mike Iupati(17), Logan Mankins(32), Shawn Andrews(16), Branden Albert(15), Ben Grubbs(29), David Joesph@(23)… all of these players are starters and then you have Steve Hutchinson(17)5x AP1st PB in 82 and 83 Houston took 2 Guards at the 8th and 9th spot Bruce Matthews and Mike Munchak that made the PB 9 and 14 times respectively. In fact of the 38 Guards selected in 1st round… over the last 30 years 15 have made it to the probowl… 27 have started for their respected teams a minimum of 5 years. Those a pretty dang good odds of getting a good Guard in the first if chosen. Better then any other position in the league. It’s a money thing… the Rookie cap put an end to that.
Rex Pfister - January 30, 2012
3 of those are also in the HOF
Rex Pfister - January 30, 2012
Solid kid
Smart, hard worker and very insinctive. He is raw and will be a late round or UDFA in the draft. He converted from RB/WR while in college so he has limited work as a safety but played the position very well. Can be a contributor on special teams and learn the safety position some more but I like him.
Don’t listen to Wess about this kid.
Birddog26 - January 29, 2012
Sounds good
Rohpuri - January 29, 2012
Smart, Hard working and very instinctive. I like it.
Rena - January 29, 2012
who we talkin bout here?
TARHEEL PAUL - January 29, 2012
Dennard
Hard to tell isn’t it?
dunkman - January 29, 2012
Birddog was giving me a report on
Stanford Safety Delano Howell
Rohpuri - January 29, 2012 via mobile
Ha ha!
I knew that and got the name wrong anyway. Thanks Roh.
dunkman - January 30, 2012
Just saw this on National Football Post
Alfonzo Dennard dropped out of the first round in their prospect rankings
Rohpuri - January 29, 2012
I was expecting that after the Senior Bowl.
From what I am reading only 2 CB’s are really 1st round material. Assuming you discount Jenkins from that list.
Rena - January 29, 2012
agreed
Rohpuri - January 29, 2012
acfgt[p
I am Ironman!!! - January 29, 2012
apparently my kids did that......
I am Ironman!!! - January 29, 2012
And made more sense than a lot of posters!
dunkman - January 29, 2012
Umm... yes?
dunkman - January 29, 2012
dkgfaskfdhjasdkfjhaskfdhas to you too!
Rohpuri - January 29, 2012
"misguided moral certitude that's unilaterally applied"
wowee zoweee! My thesaurus exploded when I typed that in!!!
manhattan - January 29, 2012
That was about as far as I can go on this board while remaining within the guidelines of ‘No Politics’.
One.Cool.Customer - January 30, 2012
Yeah, you nailed it.
Too many people here misjudge the actions of young men in their early 20s as lack of moral character. There’s a difference between youthful exuberance and a lack of character. My take on RKG would be Albert Haynesworth. Guy that has talent, got sand in his vagina when a new defense was implemented and pretty much refused to play. That’s the RKG. Obviously, if a guy has legal troubles like Rolando McClain or Aqib Talib, yeah you have an issue there. However, if a guy gets caught using recreational drugs or partying too hard in school…I mean how many of us didn’t do that when we were young? Grade issues? Meh, maybe definitely a cause to do more homework but ignore the guy completely? Please.
Omar Little - January 30, 2012
WKG*
Omar Little - January 30, 2012
hahahahahah
IRONRAVEN - January 30, 2012
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