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The playoffs aren't even over yet, and it's already mock draft time. Love 'em or hate 'em, we just can't resist them. We know they mean absolutely nothing, and that the guys making the mocks have about as much insight into who the Cowboys will draft as we do. Still, once the season is over - we like free-agency, but we love the draft.
The deadline for underclassmen to declare for the 2012 NFL Draft is tomorrow. But that hasn't deterred most draftniks from posting their early mock drafts, particularly since most of the expected prospects have already announced their intentions to play for an NFL team this year.
And with all the early talk about David DeCastro being a target for the Cowboys, you would have thought that there won't be a lot of variety in the mock drafts littering the interwebs - but far from it: ten mockers offer ten different players for the Cowboys to take in the fourteenth spot.
After the break, you'll find choice quotes on which players some mock drafts like as the No. 1 pick for the Cowboys. So without further ado, let's take a spin around the Cowboys mock draft world.
Drafttek.com, 1/12/2012: Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama.
For the 2nd consecutive week, Dre Kirkpatrick is the selection for Dallas. If he falls this far, I will be ecstatic. Terence Newman will turn 34 at the beginning of next season (and looked much older against the Giants), Mike Jenkins is set as one starter, and Orlando Scandrick is best on the slot. Then there's Alan Ball and Frank Walker - that roll call does not match up well with multiple WR sets.
Dre Kirkpatrick is one of the biggest, most physical CB's in this year's draft class, yet his athleticism and fluid hips allow him to excel in coverage. At 6'3" he has the height to match up with the taller receivers in the league and win his share of jump balls - his hands are not the best, but Dallas needs a physical attitude in their defensive backfield. The only CB currently on the Dallas roster that is at least 6' is Alan Ball ('nuff said!). CB's are like closets in a house - you can never have enough of them!
Walter Football, 1/11/2012: David DeCastro, G, Stanford.
The Cowboys have major issues on the interior of their offensive line. Left guard Derrick Dockery is a free agent after missing most of 2011 with a knee injury. Center Phil Costa sucks. Right guard Montrae Holland, meanwhile, can't really be relied upon.
David DeCastro is one of the top interior linemen prospects to come along in years, and he's the highest-ranked prospect on the board. This is a perfect match.
Draftking.com, 1/12/2011: Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina
I'm not necessarily as high on Coples as some other prognosticators out there are, but there is no doubting his size and that he'd be an ideal fit as a 3-4 DE.
Nepatriotsdraft.com, 1/10/2012: Alfonzo Denard, CB, Nebraska.
This Cornhusker can play corner or safety – very smooth and fluid – and brutally physical. We had him rated higher than teammate Prince Amukamara last year. The Cowboys would love one more corner to solidify their defensive backfield.
Newnfldraft.com, 1/10/2012: Luke Kuechli, ILB, Boston College.
The Cowboys get the top Inside Linebacker in this 2012 NFL Mock Draft. Vontaze Burfict is the player I previously had them selecting when they were picking later in the first round of the 2012 NFL Mock Draft. Additionally I think the Kuechly has the ability to play both inside and out with his skill set. Additionally I think that he will fit into their scheme.
Nflsoup.com, 1/4/2012: Whitney Mercilus, DE/OLB, Illinois
Mercilus has been improving on a weekly basis for the Fighting Illini, and has a high ceiling to become a legit pass rusher. Anthony Spencer hasn’t been bad, but he’s inconsistent and lacks a high motor.
Mercilus is a quick edge rusher who gets up field in a hurry and has very good size.
Draftace.com, 1/4/2012: Mark Barron, S, Alabama
The Cowboys have some serious issues on the defensive side of the ball, especially in the secondary. Unfortunately, there aren’t many great options once Claiborne and Kirkpatrick are off the board. Alfonzo Dennard may be a popular choice, but he’s terribly overrated and I expect his stock to fall. The safe route may be to upgrade at strong safety with Barron.
Sidelinescouting.com, 1/3/2012: Janoris Jenkins, CB, N. Alabama
Off-field trouble at Florida forced this ball-hawking corner to start over new at Northern Alabama. Despite those issues though, there is no denying that this guy has top ten talent, and if it weren't for leaving Florida and the resulting lower profile, he would be high on every teams list. Thankfully the Cowboys don't seem to worry as much about character and hinge their stock on production. Jenkins has the potential to be a game-changer in the NFL, and he's well worth the risk. Many considered him to be one of the best corners in the country during his time with Florida.
Newerascouting.com: Stephon Gilmore, CB, South Carolina
Rob Ryan wanted new cornerbacks before the season. If he’s still around, Dallas will get him the upgrade he needs.
The Great Blue North Draft Report doesn't provide any commentary, but their January 3 mock has the Cowboys picking: Courtney Upshaw, OLB, Alabama.
Dallas Cowboys Mock Draft overview (min. two rounds deep)
| 1st Round | 2nd Round | 3rd Round | 4th Round | 5th Round | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Draftsite | Alfonzo Denard, CB, Nebraska | Baccari Rambo, S, Georgia | Brandon Weeden, QB, Oklahoma State | Joel Foreman, OG, Michigan State | Donte Paige-Moss, DE/OLB, North Carolina |
| Walter Football | David DeCastro, G, Stanford | Josh Robinson, CB, Central Florida | Kendall Reyes, DE/DT, Connecticut | Donte Paige-Moss, DE/OLB, North Carolina | |
| Drafttek | Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama | Vinny Curry, OLB, Marshall | Arthur Brown, ILB, Kansas State | ||
| Draftace | Mark Barron, S, Alabama | Brandon Washington, OG, Miami | |||
| Sidelinescouting | Janoris Jenkins, CB, N. Alabama | Markelle Martin, S, Oklahoma State |
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Drafttek.
Dre is the flashier pick right now. I feel we can get solid guard in round 2.
DCyanks21 - January 14, 2012
I went with Drafttek for Kirkpatrick also.
DeCastro is very tempting, but a taller, fluid cb with Kirkpatricks skillset is hard to get. So I seriously doubt he will be there when we pick.
It is hard to watch our CB’s running with the taller WR’s and being helpless to do anything to stop a pass from being completed. We need someone who can compete for those and break them up.
Rena - January 14, 2012
i like Kirkpatrick but imagine if J.Jenkins really had his life together.
to bad Jenkins didnt get it together but someone will take a shot on him just like Jerry did with Dez.
my only concern about a 6’3 CB is covering smaller revievers like D.Jackson or Maclin. those dudes are like water bugs if they get off the LOS
DCNation73 - January 14, 2012
We have smaller CB's now.
Rena - January 14, 2012
that is what Scandrick and Jenkins are for
you move Kirkpatrick to Safety(ala Saints with M. Jenkins)
I am Ironman!!! - January 14, 2012
the only problem I have with draftek is I don't think there is any way Dre is there when we pick
just4fun - January 14, 2012
I thought Rambo was returning to Georgia....
I would of loved to snag him in the 2nd. I think he can be a very good safety in the NFL.
death of the cool - January 14, 2012
He is returning to Ga.
football mensa - January 14, 2012
Um, Maybe I'm not Understanding
Good possibility on not understanding by the way. Doesn’t Fairley already play for the Detroit Lions?
Jace M - January 14, 2012
Is there another Nick Fairley
The Patriots draft site references another Auburn Fairley product???
Tyrone Jenkins - January 14, 2012
apologies, that was a copy/paste mistake and has been fixed
One.Cool.Customer - January 14, 2012
Lol that confused me too.
DCyanks21 - January 14, 2012
Dre
will be gone for sure, but if he’s there I’m buying shots for everyone! (Realistically though, I want DeCastro and hope he’s there.)
Tennessee_Jed - January 14, 2012
I think Kiper or McShay has him ranked as the 22nd prospect.
DCyanks21 - January 14, 2012
Can I pass on all of them?
Those are some pretty weak mocks.
Blue Eyed Devil - January 14, 2012
Sure. Just added the option.
One.Cool.Customer - January 14, 2012
How about this mock
Round #1) Nick Perry – OLB – USC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nvhUMxoTfs
Round #2) Kelechi Osemele – G – Iowa State
6’4" 347lbs
Round #3) Trumaine Johnson – CB – Montana
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twoBOATPVdw
Blue Eyed Devil - January 14, 2012
not bad at all
Perry at #14 might be a little too high though. Maybe if we can drop down to 17 or 18 Perry would be a real good pick there.
Boyzfan94 - January 14, 2012
see I dont like that thinking
teams are not just gonna trade up just because of that
if we like someone, take him at 14
Archie Barberio - January 14, 2012
Maybe a little too early
but this maybe the year Jerry should attempt to move up a few spots. Lets see who is projected where after the Combine because players tend to move up or down after it.
Boyzfan94 - January 14, 2012
I wouldnt mind moving up for an impact player
problem is we need our picks this year
Archie Barberio - January 14, 2012
True
then they need to be aggressive in FA, but I know that will be hard given our cap problem. Im really warming up to Fitzpatrick, but OLB or DE would have to be my top need.
Boyzfan94 - January 14, 2012
Sorry Kirkpatrick
Boyzfan94 - January 14, 2012
Agree we need our picks this year,
not a fan of moving up under MOST circumstances. If multiple guys we like are on the board when we pick, I’d say move down, and load up on Rd 2-4 guys. If we’ve done a good job scouting, we can find the capable players we need and fill multiple holes. Use FA for G and CB
Silverblue - January 14, 2012
Don't move up - we need every pick we can get
There will be a great player there at pick #14.
One of the reasons we’re force to rely on UDFAs like Costa and 7th round picks like Ball is because we give away our 3rds 4ths and 5ths every single year!
Blue Eyed Devil - January 14, 2012
Trade to whatever spot you need to get Mark Barron
He is a play making guy in the secondary we need. He can play the run, cover TEs, line up (albeit occasionally) on slot WRs and blitz. Put him in the secondary with a healthy Mike Jenkins and Courtland Finnegan and they can provide that one extra second the pass rush needed this past year.
thegloryyears - January 14, 2012
I like Mark Barron too
But I also like Decastro, and Ingram, and Nick Perry, and Morris Claiborne. There’s lots of really really good players in this draft. If Dallas just holds its water and stays patient at least one will be sitting there at pick #14.
Don’t get greedy, let the board come to you.
Blue Eyed Devil - January 14, 2012
Osemele
I’m not fan, apparently the kid is like the Anthony Spencer of offensive linemen, doesn’t have a high motor, doesn’t always play hard. No thanks, I want linemen, especially at Guard and Tackle who are mean.
Rohpuri - January 14, 2012 via mobile
There's a ton of guard options in the 2nd round
who would you take?
Blue Eyed Devil - January 14, 2012
The G from Wisconsin. However, the G I really want is DeCastro.
Rohpuri - January 14, 2012 via mobile
Osemele is mocked as a first on most boards
Besides if DeCastro is gone before the Cowboys pick I’m sure plenty of teams in the top 13 will be looking his way as a consolation prize for DeCastro.
Omar Little - January 14, 2012
True
CowboyWay - January 14, 2012 via mobile
Of all of them I would go
with Drafttek. The theme seems to be defense and it should be
Boyzfan94 - January 14, 2012
hhahahahaha
yeah I was going to do that at first, but I took the Barron and Washington one
Archie Barberio - January 14, 2012
Isn't 14 a little high for Barron being another SS
oldboysfan - January 14, 2012
14 is WAY too high for a SS
Especially one who doesn’t project to have the talent of a Troy Polamalu or Roy Williams. Read what Wes Bunting says about him, I think he slips to early 2nd RD.
Rohpuri - January 14, 2012 via mobile
WB says in a decent S class he would be a 2nd - 3rd rounder.
Rena - January 14, 2012
true but why reach for someone who won't be a long term answer at S for us?
we need coverage guys. Pick one of the real blue chip players and let someone else settle for Barron
somebodyquiet - January 14, 2012
I just like that mock better than any other when it goes 2 rounds deep
Archie Barberio - January 15, 2012
I would take 3 of those players at this moment. Dre,DeCastro,Coples
salas88 - January 14, 2012 via mobile
Walter Football uses fan vernacular.....gotta love it
football mensa - January 14, 2012
+1
Haha that was pretty funny to read! I also liked Drafttek’s line:
Cowboys_Attack - January 14, 2012
LOL
they also called Donte Paige Moss a douche when they mocked him to us in the 4th round
Archie Barberio - January 14, 2012
Lol.
DCyanks21 - January 14, 2012
Michael Brockers
football mensa - January 14, 2012
BPA please
But we desperately need talent on defense. We can find plenty good interior lineman in the later rounds.
kindablue - January 14, 2012
I have zero faith in their ability to do that.
I think that unless they get a can’t miss guy like Smith or DeCastro, this team is not great at finding OL talent. There was Gurode in the top of the 2nd round in 2002. I really can’t think of anyone else decent besides Free in the past 10 years, and after this year, the jury is still out on him. I’m not saying that there aren’t plenty of good interior linemen available, I just question our ability to actually find them.
Since 2001, we produced 2 starting OL through the draft that I can remember, prior to last year: Gurode (2/37) and Free (4/122). I think we saw last year what happens when we think we can find plenty of talent in late rounds – you end up desperately grabbing guys that were cut by the Redskins or that we basically kicked out of camp, so that you don’t have to let your 4th rounder dress for a game. Or you start a 7th round college backup that ends up being basically the worst offensive player to get on the field.
Hell, in the past 20 years, they’ve only found 5 legit OL starters through the draft, and 4 out of 5 were 1st or 2nd rounders.
Baked Potato Soup - January 14, 2012
Then they need to learn how to build an offensive line
Like everyone else. The best o-lines in the league have been built with predominantly fourth round and lower picks. Look at the Saints and Packers, for example. The 49ers have two first rounders in their line, but that’s rare—and ironically, the strength of that team is their defense, not offense.
I agree the interior line needs to be improved, although I think fans here are overreacting to how bad things are. I also agree the scouting department needs to reevaluate their grades for offensive linemen. We bailed in 2009 on the opportunity to draft Sebastian Vollmer. Obviously when we pass on a future All-Pro tackle that was highly regarded in the draft, we need to reconsider how we’re grading linemen.
However, I disagree the solution is to throw high draft picks on interior offensive linemen. Teams have built superior offensive lines for decades without having to spend two first rounders doing it. We need to learn that skill too, or else this team will be giving up 40 points a game and trying to outscore teams just to get to 9-7.
kindablue - January 14, 2012
Sorry, I whole heardtedly disagree with your reasoning now.
It’s a different league now with the bew rookie wage scale. Salaries are more controlled. If DeCastro is there you take him, and never look back. As far as I’m concerned, he’s bust proof, barring some freak injury.
Rohpuri - January 14, 2012 via mobile
I'm not even considering salaries
I’m thinking of spending high draft picks wisely. If you can build a great offensive line without having to waste a pick in the teens on an interior piece, why would anyone want to do it? Particularly when the defense has been starved for talent for the last four or so years?
kindablue - January 14, 2012
Defense, Defense, Defense
While the offensive line wasn’t dominant, it’s not our biggest need. Romo threw for 4,000 yards this year behind that line. The line also would have had it’s first 1,000 yard rusher had the Giants not twisted Murray’s ankle into pieces. I’d argue that the play calling hasn’t been adjusted to opposing pass rush.
Take for instance the last game of the season against the Giants. Romo was sacked six times. But when Garrett actually realized that we needed to get the ball out quicker, Romo was able to orchestrate a scoring drive. Another year of strength training of the younger guys and they’ll hold up better.
Give me a playmaker in the secondary (Mark Barron anyone?) and the pass rush will have a little bit longer to get to opposing QBs.
thegloryyears - January 14, 2012
+1
Recommended.
kindablue - January 14, 2012
only reason i don't want DeCastro in the 1st is because of the depth of the guard class
we can take someone like kevin zeitler in the 3rd and i think he’ll be very productive for us
somebodyquiet - January 14, 2012
If Romo goes down season is over
and he almost got killed this year. O line – DeCastro is a guard some think is going to be almost as good as LA was.
burmafrd1944 - January 14, 2012
Right now Dallas needs the BEST players they can get
regardless of position. If a GREAT, HOF potential, game-changing, sure-fire, low bust potential player is out there – whether he be a LB, OG, CB, RB, etc. then they should pick him.
Elite players make all the players around them better. Drafting DeCastro makes the most sense regardless of the OG depth in the class. DeCastro IS the next Larry Allen or Steve Hutchinson.
Tyrone Jenkins - January 14, 2012
exactly
interior linemen are developed not drafted for the most part. Tthats why hiring Callahan was so important. A decent lineman usually takes a season or two to develop unless you get an absolute beast. Get a solid veteran center put two kids between him and the two damn good tackles we have and we are going to have a solid line that will perform. At the same time develop Killer and when he takes over in a year or so it will be Dallas that puts three linemen in the pro bowl like the Saints did this year.
sexililkitti - January 14, 2012 via mobile
Actually lets look at the Saints and Packers
The Saints have Carl Nicks a first rounder and had Jammal Brown a first rounder. The Packers have Bulaga and Sherrod both 1 st rounders. So how are these teams building Oline with 4th rounders and lower?
Cowick22 - January 14, 2012 via mobile
I am not sure that mid level draft picks
on the offensive line, are ready to start. We need a better line right now, and I really think we are only one piece away. I think a first or second on a top guard, and the signing of a vet for a few years who can play either center or guard, would put us right where we want to be on the offensive line.
You cant look at the results of the offense and say the line is good. If you wanted the games, we had a hard time running the ball when we needed to, and we couldnt protect long enough to pass like we want to. Too many short drives when the pressure was on. Romo was running for his life.
I think the drafting of a guard and the signing of a versatile C/G in FA would make the line nearly stellar.
Oakster41 - January 16, 2012
Does Callahan make this history less relevant?
Don’t know how much input our OL line coach has had in OL drafting in the past. Pretty sure he won’t be in the war room, but maybe Callahan gives us a boost in selecting better talent, regardless of the round?
Nevertheless, i concur that they shouldn’t get cute if an OG is the BPA in the 1st.
Lajitas Lava - January 16, 2012
Actually
As the OC Callahan will be in the War room.
AlanK - January 16, 2012 via iPhone app
I have a problem with dre
and that’s his height. I feel that if he wasn’t so tall he wouldn’t be rated as highly. I always hear about how tall he is and how well he tackles. that’s nice and all but I would rather have a 5’11" corner that can shut down receivers and make picks then someone who is tall and tackles well.
kitten mittens - January 14, 2012 via Android app
and about alfonzo..
didn’t he get abused by top receivers? alshon in their bowl game for example..
kitten mittens - January 14, 2012 via Android app
agreed
he was torn a new one, lost his temper & get ejected didn’t he? that sounds like the WKG.
99yard_TD_Run - January 14, 2012
He actually is pretty good in coverage
It’s his ball skills (interceptions) that are in question. He only had three in his career and that was as a sophomore. He is a physical corner and can get his hands on some balls to bat them away, but needs to show ball skills. I’m hoping that the combine will show that he has some ability to high point a ball and good range. We will have to see how it pans out.
ProBowlFactory - January 14, 2012
We need to bring in corners and safeties
Who have some awareness of when the ball is in the air. Jenkins is the only person we have who knows how to recognize and go after the ball. Newman was good in his prime, but never had ball awareness. That has to change. Those types of players, even an Ike Holt-class gambler, would do more good than what we have now.
kindablue - January 14, 2012
+1
I’d even sacrifice a few picks for a ton of PBUs
Silverblue - January 14, 2012
DeCastro
BPA and RKG.
Lord Humungus - January 14, 2012
And the people say...
AMEN!
Tyrone Jenkins - January 14, 2012
Amen !
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Tyrone Jenkins - January 14, 2012
YEAHHHHH!!!!
salas88 - January 14, 2012 via mobile
Agreed
Gives Romo a chance to stay off of IR & find his receivers downfield. Also helps the running game. By helping the offense stay on the field more, our defense isn’t on the field as much, are more rested, exposed less & makes the other team’s offense more likely to pass. I believe I read a scout’s report where he could switch to C.
Check out this guy: http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_player_scouting_report.html&player=32491(Malik Jackson). This guy looks like a poor man’s Melvin Ingram who we could use on the strong side to rush from DE in the Nickel or SOLB on running downs. The draft has some defensive prospects later in the draft. Additionally, Hightower has just declared for the draft & he should be an interesting prospect that could help the ’boys. Looking forward to see where he projects to be drafted. Go Cowboys!
99yard_TD_Run - January 14, 2012
WB is saying he is better than Upshaw, who he says is the same as Spencer.
Rena - January 14, 2012
not at #14...
I would have no problem taking him but at #14 for a Guard that’s too steep for Jerry.
Boyzfan94 - January 14, 2012
DraftKing gets my vote....barely
While I would love to have DeCastro (maybe the next Larry Allen?) on our line for the next decade+. I believe our biggest issues are on defense, and I think a dominant DE candidate like Quinton Coples could improve three positions on defense all at once. A better interior rush by our D-line, especially on the left side, could help out Spencer or whomever we have at OLB next year. And an improved pass rush will help the DBs.
WB3forMB3 - January 14, 2012
He would most likely be a 3-4 outside backer, not a 3-4 DE
Although he has the size to play DE and the athleticism to play 3-4. He could actually line up anywhere in the front seven except maybe ILB in our scheme which makes him an attractive option. His question is his motor, but that will be found out for real if/when the cowboys get him in for an interview.
ProBowlFactory - January 14, 2012
I will never pay 1st round money to someone who lacks the high motor and lacks the passion for the game.
No need to waste time on that guy. I want self motivated individuals. There comes a point in every man’s life when he has to realize that mommy, daddy, or whomever brought you up in life can’t always be there for you, and that you need to be doing things for yourself. Your coaches and teammates can’t motivate you. That needs to come from your heart.
Rohpuri - January 14, 2012 via mobile
that won't matter if...
Our NT doesn’t collapse the pocket!
mho - January 14, 2012 via iPhone app
Poe would be my pick, but I dont think he will be there at #14
Boyzfan94 - January 14, 2012
Poe will be there.
Jerry would never draft him though. To Jerry we don’t need a nt. I have been pining for this ever since we switched to a 3-4.
football mensa - January 14, 2012
Im thinking he would go for a NT/DT over a Guard
if he had to choose. Taking a Guard or NT is probably too high there either way, but if Poe is that good maybe not. Its a need and we need major help on the DL. Let’s see how he does at the Combine
Boyzfan94 - January 14, 2012
I am for a stud nt because he is the closest to the qb.
football mensa - January 14, 2012
Is he a legit game changer?
I don’t know the college prospects at all…
But I would love to have a guy who makes someone, other than Phil Costa, look like Phil Costa.
CotySaxman - January 14, 2012 via mobile
Its not all Jerry
GMs don’t sit there and say “Here is who I want you to play with”. They collaborate and will try to make good decisions but to think that Jerry is saying that getting a larger NT isn’t necessary is pretty stupid. You have to blame the defensive people for not doing their job to get Jerry to get a player like that.
ProBowlFactory - January 14, 2012
At #14 if a "Blue Chip" player is there you have to take him.
If you have the opportunity to get a “Blue Chipper” in the first round,no matter what position he plays, you have to take him. Getting that type of players are what builds championship teams.If that player happens to fill a need then all the better!! How happy would we all be if Romo didn’t have to run for his life from immediate pressure that comes untouched up the middle ever again.Or if we could run straight up the middle from inside the redzone and get the tough yards and the first down or the td. I know that I would be extremely happy if that comes to be.
NVCowboy4Life - January 15, 2012
DeCastro is a legit blue chip player.
pfloyd1 - January 15, 2012
ok, take em if he’s there. but why get emotionally attached to a name. There’s gonna be a quality player @ #14. Get the most value for that pick.
StarloverinWNC - January 15, 2012
what we got going for us is, is this…
Its a QB deprived league. Some team is probably gone reach for a QB in the draft. We only benefit from that scenario.
StarloverinWNC - January 15, 2012
2010? 2011?
Cowboys lost Romo in ‘10 & the Colts lost Manning in ’11. What happened to those teams? Their seasons went down the toilet. Anyone care for a repeat of ’10? I don’t. We have to protect Romo. If he’s gone then we’re stuck w/ McGee & Greisen. DeCastro is the 2nd highest rated prospect in some scout’s eyes.
We could go for Coples who has issues w/ taking plays off or stick to our board & get the best value. This isn’t going to be a 1 year process. It’s gonna take 2 off seasons to fix this mess. This team needs an infusion of talent at every position & that’s gonna take time. The fastest way to get to the SB, imo, is to fix the offense first & then the defense. If Romo is on IR w/ broken legs because Costa or Free were pushed around, then how are Coples, Kirkpatrick or any defensive pick gonna help? The defense is so weak it’ll take 2 drafts & FAs to be competitive.
Am I suggesting we go all offense? Far from it. I believe we should protect Romo, by using our 1st for DeCastro, replace M. Bennet w/ Evan Rodriguez somewhere in the 7th who can play both TE & FB, & then go for value & select a 34 DEs like Fletcher Cox in the 3rd, Malik Jackson in the 5th & Derek Wolfe in the 6th. Jackson may be able to play SOLB & Jonathan Massaquoi has declared for the draft & could be an option for our pass rush in the 4th.
99yard_TD_Run - January 14, 2012
Keep preaching to the choir
I’m in full agreement with this pick. DeCastro or FAIL.
I don’t want the next Anthony Spencer, Roy Williams, or Terence Newman of Pass Rushers and DBs.
If we take an effing DB or Pass Rusher in the first RD he better be the next coming of DeMarcus Ware, Suggs, Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu, or Darrell Revis. Otherwise I give it an F if we pass on DeCastro.
Rohpuri - January 14, 2012 via mobile
What about a JJ Watt or Darrelle Revis?
Guards are salt of the earth. There’s lots of superior offensive lines that have guards taken in the fourth round or later. There’s a reason for that!
kindablue - January 14, 2012
At #14 if a "Blue Chip" player is there you have to take him. OG or not,quality wins SBs.
NVCowboy4Life - January 15, 2012
DraftCountdown has us taking Ingram
but that was before the season ended and with the 17th overall pick.
ProBowlFactory - January 14, 2012
Conflicting
Dre looks like a good fit for our needs but dont seem realistic he will be sitting there at 14, Arthur Brown transfered from my U cuz he was kinda soft and never got the playing time he wanted in spite of coming with great fanfare… So I gotta go with Walter outta those options.
Cuban Cowboy - January 14, 2012 via mobile
If I HAD to pick from OCCs options? +1
WB3forMB3 - January 14, 2012
I kinda like draftsite
CB – huge need
Safety – huge need
QB to groom.
But BPA is always the best way to go.
DIRE WOLF - January 14, 2012
I have no issue with a QB to groom
But no thanks on Brandon Weeden. He’s 28 years old. By the time Romo is done, he will be in his 30s. Not exactly a “QB of the future”.
sportsfanatic21 - January 14, 2012
Agree, I didn't realize he is that old.
DIRE WOLF - January 14, 2012
+1
mho - January 14, 2012 via iPhone app
People need to stop with the qb to groom thing.
I don’t want to draft Tony’s replacement for a couple years. You gotta realize that 35 is the new 30tomb for qbs. Romo just had his best season. He was a late starter so he has less wear on him (and yes that absolutely matters) he will be in his prime until 35tender easy. Rookies only get 4 years now. When romo turns 34on draft a qb in the top rounds. If he gets severely injured draft one in the first the next draft. We have too many holes currently to draft a qb to groom for another team. I think McGee is ready to be a backup. I have liked what I’ve seen from him. He has elusiveness (obviously really watched romo), has no problem getting rid of the ball, with time can make all the deep passes etc. He can pull off afor couple wins if we need him if our oline gives him more than a second unlike the Philly game.
stegosaurus! - January 14, 2012 via mobile
agreed
waaaaaaaaay too old to be a serious prospect
somebodyquiet - January 14, 2012
Pass Rusher FIRST
Then DB’s, after that they can look for depth on the lines or at ILB. Trade Felix for addition picks.
Howleyesque - January 14, 2012
+1
Melvin Ingram, Nick Perry, Bruce Irvin – there’s guys in this draft class that can be an upgrade at OLB.
Blue Eyed Devil - January 14, 2012
Players are at their lowest value around the draft.
They wouldn’t get much for Felix and his contract makes him a value to Dallas.
DIRE WOLF - January 14, 2012
+1
Dont forget we ended the season with Sammy Morris as our starting RB
WB3forMB3 - January 14, 2012
I would strongly be thinking about trading Felix right now
VERY strongly.
Try to get a 4th for him and move forward with Murray and Tanner. RBs are arguably the easiest parts to replace on a team (see: Sammy Morris).
Blue Eyed Devil - January 14, 2012
That's a thought
However, I’d offer another possibility.
FJ is a special talent. He’s not really a RB. He’s not really a WR. He’s a tweener – much like Darren Sproles. If he’s used that way (out of the backfield to catch passes, on ST to return KOs, etc.) then his value goes WAY UP.
FJ isn’t horrible – his utilization is.
Tyrone Jenkins - January 14, 2012
Felix Jones WAS a special talent
Now he’s just a jag. Dump him for a 3rd or 4th if you can. Recoup some investment back, cut your losses and move on.
Rohpuri - January 14, 2012 via mobile
Got to agree
When he had his burning speed he was special. But years and injuries have taken that away. Now he’s just a JAG.
Similar thing is going on in Tennessee with Chris Johnson right now too.
Blue Eyed Devil - January 14, 2012
sorry but Felix isn even a glimpse of Sproles.
Felix is decent for 5-8 plays then he’s just another guy. i honestly doubt someone would even give a 6th rd pick but you never know. Jerry give the ranch for Roy Williams & resigned TO then released him lol.
DCNation73 - January 14, 2012
i agree 100% about trading Felix bc Murray is 100x better & Tanner has more upside then Choice ever had.
if Felix was worth a 3rd or 4th round draft pick i would in return find a 3rd down back/kick returner in the mold of D.Sproles. the kid from the Ducks, L.James is projected to be a 3rd/4th round pick the last i read & another weapon defenses would need to defend or get burned. David Wilson is another speedy RB that has a lot of lower body strength & is a very good returner.
my pet is a Cb from VT, J.Hosley (sp). he would be a perfect defender for those speedy. shifty recievers, he can play LCB, RCB or the slot, has great ballhawking skills & knack for getting INTs. his size will hurt his stock but his verticle/combine will show some impressive numbers.
DCNation73 - January 14, 2012
+{1
Boyzfan94 - January 14, 2012
oh boy
I hope Luke Kuelechy is long gone when we pick
another ILB that high will send some to the ICU
Archie Barberio - January 14, 2012
There are some in need of the icu....right now...
football mensa - January 14, 2012
lol...
mho - January 14, 2012 via iPhone app
I'd rather have Vontaez Burfict at ILB If we took one
But I wouldn’t take him until the 3rd round. I’m not paying him first or second round money. Did you see the dude’s press conference declaring for the draft? I’m taking my talents to the NFL! The dude underachieved his junior year, was benched for his bowl game, and throws up a LeBron James style declaration.
Rohpuri - January 14, 2012 via mobile
I'd take him in the second but only as a OLB
Mac_Eleven - January 14, 2012
Not sure if any are realist.
Not one has drafted a TE or a RB.
oldboysfan - January 14, 2012
I agree
That we need to draft a TE as well
BrickTop - January 14, 2012 via mobile
Fleener would be available in the 2nd & Egnew in the 3rd. Egnew is not a blocker but a great receiving TE. He compares alot to A. Hernandez of NE & Graham from NO.
99yard_TD_Run - January 14, 2012
give me the the TE/FB from Temple
We can get him around RD 5. Fleener is a luxury item that we can’t afford to have right now.
Rohpuri - January 14, 2012 via mobile
oops realistic
oldboysfan - January 14, 2012
What if
We get Kirkpatrick in the first, and Janoris Jenkins is right there in the 2nd.. ?
BrickTop - January 14, 2012 via mobile
If they're the BPAs
Take them. Jenkins is always hurt and Sandrick has looked good for about half a season in four years. You can’t ever have enough good corners, assuming these guys are as good as their hype.
kindablue - January 14, 2012
I would like to trade back with Houston...
Word here and everywhere is that the Texans #2 and #3 receivers suck. I think they would jump if Jeffrey or Floyd (maybe Kendall Wright) are there. Trade back and get Janoris Jenkins…. Round 2 Jared Crick…trade back into the 2nd and grab Kevin Zeitler…
Just dreaming up scenarios
Mac_Eleven - January 14, 2012
Fourth round
Shea Mcclellin, donte Paige Moss or Cliff Harris
Mac_Eleven - January 14, 2012
Stand pat at #14
The Cowboys need young impact players, and this should be the last year for 3+ years that we pick this high. Use this pick to get a great player because we hope to not have a pick like #14 for the rest of Romo’s career.
Blue Eyed Devil - January 14, 2012
I respect that
Mac_Eleven - January 14, 2012
The problem
with “staying pat at #14” is matching the need, with the player, and the money. If Kirkpatrick is there, fine take him. If DeCastro is there, you can trade back some and still either get him or maybe a Dennard and another 2nd round pick. My plan is to pay Carl Nicks and go from there. That is a known commodity and is worth the money. Then you can make defense the top priority in the draft.
jevans1729 - January 14, 2012
Don't worry about need, get the best player
Last year we didn’t need a left tackle, Doug Free played fine. This year we need a left tackle! And how happy are we that we have Tyron Smith?
If you pick in the top-15 you have a chance at getting a great player that will be an impact for years, not just fill an immediate need of 1 year.
Use the 2nd and 3rd round to plug holes. Use pick #27 next year to plug a hole. But with #14 you are going to have really good players on the board. Take one.
Blue Eyed Devil - January 14, 2012
I think we are
saying similar things at least. I said if Kirkpatrick is there, take him because I believe he is worth that spot on the board. I also think Janoris Jenkins is too but his off field issues will probably push him down some. I just don’t think the OLBs everyone is talking about are worth the #14 slot nor is DeCastro. As you say “you have a chance” at getting a great player in the draft. I would opt for the known commodity in Carl Nicks and KNOW I have upgraded my line since we proved we can’t block the Giants or the Eagles. If one of the top corners is there at #14, fine. I just don’t see any Von Miller OLBs out there for me to take at #14 and that is a little too high for me to take a guard.
jevans1729 - January 14, 2012
Yeah, I'm just saying I wouldn't move up or down from #14
I’d hold my water and let great players come to me.
Blue Eyed Devil - January 14, 2012
agreed
Rohpuri - January 14, 2012 via mobile
Jenkins will fall due to "character concerns"
I would be happy getting him at 14. Imagine get him after a trade down and gaining an extra pick. Drafting is about getting productive steals. Ie demarco in the third round
Mac_Eleven - January 14, 2012
Its not out of the question
for Jenkins to fall into the second round because of charecter concerns and even if he is gone there will be CB talent at 27 and so what if that talent is not consistant pro bowl material. It will be a vast upgrade over Newman/Ball. Take a gamechanging safety like Barron and hope he falls to you and if not you still improve tremendously
sexililkitti - January 14, 2012 via mobile
The guy (Jenkins)
was arrrested for marijuana possession not presidential assassination. He will not last until the second round especially now that there is a rookie wage scale.
jevans1729 - January 14, 2012
The issue is 3 arrests in under 2 years. 2 of those were for pot.
To the point that he was thrown out of school. Character concerns are very big these days in the NFL. And with a deep CB class it isn’t hard to see him dropping into the 2nd round.
After all, he will be tested regularly in the NFL, he fails and he is suspended. Fail again and you look at a year suspension.
Rena - January 15, 2012
The affray arrest
was ajudicated as a deferred prosecution and is therefore not part of his criminal record since he never admitted guilt of a crime. That leaves us with two marijuana possession charges neither of which are felonies. I think you would be right if the kid went supplemental draft but a late first round for the best corner in the draft isn’t such a bad deal. Who knows? You may end up being right.
jevans1729 - January 15, 2012
I don't see a deferred prosecution argument as being valid to NFL GM's to ignore it happened.
And time will tell how much he slips. He is very talented and people draft CB’s high and often.
On the other side drug issues make a lot of teams back away fast, especially multi issues. And it is a deep CB draft. Picking another CB who is slightly less talented but doesn’t have multi drug arrests could be much safer as a 1st round pick for a GM.
Rena - January 15, 2012
My plan is is to sign Finnegan and Nicks
Draft DeCastro in the first
Draft Defense mostly the rest of rounds 2-7, possobly trade Felix Jones for an extra 3rd or 4th rd pick as well. There, that’s how we start year 2 of a 3 year rebuilding project which began with the 2011 Draft.
Rohpuri - January 14, 2012 via mobile
I really doubt anyone would trade a 4th for Felix.
He is a good RB and catching passes, but it is the last year of his contract and he has had injury issues.
Rena - January 14, 2012
Would you
Trade Felix for LaMichael James? I think James would be a good fit as KO/PR and speed back.
peachygbc_1 - January 14, 2012
Lamichael would require a 2nd rounder
Hard to justify snagging a Scat back that early with all of the needs on the O line and entire defense.
matt575 - January 14, 2012 via mobile
3rd
What if he is a3rd rounder? And you trade Felix for a 3rd.
peachygbc_1 - January 14, 2012
I'll take LaMichael James. He'll go in the 4th or 5th rd
Rohpuri - January 14, 2012 via mobile
Eh, he's to small, not an nfl type. Not even an SEC type
just4fun - January 14, 2012
Yes.
You’ve gotta realize you’re trading one year of Felix for about three or four of James. James fits the team’s other needs better than Felix does, and Felix has essentially been Wally Pipp’d. You’re also clearing about a million in cap space. So yes, yes I would.
Omar Little - January 15, 2012
^^^ +1000000000000000000000!!! Only way to draft. Totally agree BED!!
NVCowboy4Life - January 15, 2012
^^ Comment was in reply to BEDs about taking BPA at #14.
WOW got knocked way down the thread :-}.
NVCowboy4Life - January 15, 2012
Jared Crick is injured
I want my 1st, 2nd and 3rd picks contributong right away. I don’t want people who’ve got criminal records either. Janoris Jenkins is the RKG, big on talent, low on IQ and brains. I’m not paying him first rd $.
Rohpuri - January 14, 2012 via mobile
Jared crick has a pec tear
Not an acl injury he will be ready for camp
Mac_Eleven - January 14, 2012
DeCastro
If we get him, I will jump for joy!
Praveetheus - January 14, 2012
+1
Mac_Eleven - January 14, 2012
Guys...
Look at this mock.
DCyanks21 - January 14, 2012
Went with Walter
Mostly because we need a major upgrade on the line, especially at the Guard position, either side, I don’t care. Any front line coverage would be better than the sieve that the line was towards the end of the season.
Aaron Burtram - January 14, 2012
I'm not sure it matters until Jerry lets this team go or at least steps away as GM
Nearly 20 years of the same stuff now and only one common denominator. That said, I’d like some secondary help with first two picks if the value is there with interior line rd. 3 or later. I’d like to give some of the guys we drafted last year a chance to bulk up, learn the position, and show what else they may have. I might need some education in this area as I don’t really know what kind of years our rookie linemen had this year outside of Tyron.
pjohn56 - January 14, 2012
Markelle Martin
Will he be there in the 2nd? The more I think about him, the more I really want him.
peachygbc_1 - January 14, 2012
I like Markelle Martin a lot.
Rohpuri - January 14, 2012 via mobile
Dont really see a need to move up during rounds 1 and 2
There will be a pass rusher, corner, or guard sitting there for us in both rounds. I understand wanting Decastro in the first but if Dre or Ingram are there you have to take them. There are quality guards that will be there in round 2 or 3.
Now I don’t mind trading during rounds 3-7 pending on our board. If there is a player rated high still around in the 3rd or 4th worth going up for those are the rounds to do so because gems are found there IE Murray, Ratliff, Lissy, etc.
CowboyWay - January 14, 2012 via mobile
looks like we will be able to trade back 5-7 spots and still get a quality 1st yr impact player at one of our positions of need. (OL, CB, S, NT, DL, OLB).
If the player you wanted and had valued at #14 isn’t there (ie Kirkpatrick/Decastro), I believe you then begin to look at trading down to get an extra 3rd and maybe package your 2 & extra 3 to trade back up into the 1st round or very early in the 2nd. You’d still be able to get 2 quality starters under this scenario.
StarloverinWNC - January 14, 2012
Too Bad....Who wouldn't want Rambo in the 2nd?
Like Denard but would like him taller. Hope for Quinton C, Kirpatric, or DeCastro in the 1st.
Lots of help available later too. Pass on old man Weeden.
1Bullseye - January 14, 2012
Janoris Jenkins!!!
Lissyyyyy - January 14, 2012
Huge Tallent
But it is so obvious that he is not much of a thinker.
It will be interesting to see how far his history drops him in the draft. That is why they call it “Dope”.
1Bullseye - January 14, 2012
Get Rodgers or Finnegan and veteran G in free agency
Draft DeCastro in 1st if there. If not, take Barron. 2nd go Nt or Cb BPA. A healthy running gm will slow down a good pass rush and strong middle will slow these high octaine offenses
letsgtld - January 14, 2012 via mobile
My top guys for 14
Decastro
Upshaw
Kirkpatrick
Konz
in that order! There are a few more, but those are my top options. At least we are not limited this year!
textaz03 - January 14, 2012
my tops guys, I would be happy if we either of these
1. Dre Kirkpatrick
2. Melvin Ingram
3. Brockers
4. Konz
5. DeCastro
If we trade down a bit and grab someone like Devon Still later on, I would be ok with that too
somebodyquiet - January 14, 2012
I think Andrew Luck is going to to drop to us in the 1st round
Decastro will drop to us in the 2nd, Morris Claiborne will drop to us in the 3rd, Kirkpatrick in the 4th, and we will trade our 6th and 7th rounders to pick up Upshaw in the 7th.
Sounds crazy right. Well after watching FSU kick the living hell out of my Tarheels in basketball (yes, basketball not football) i truly believe anything is possible.
I will be throwing up for the rest of the afternoon if anyone needs me.
TARHEEL PAUL - January 14, 2012
Coples
This guy is lazy and does not come to play each week….as a Carolina fan I watched painfully how he would no show this year….like TarHeel Paul I too am throwing up after the FSU blowout
BWAREofDWARE94 - January 14, 2012
33..................really, by 33 points.
TARHEEL PAUL - January 14, 2012
I cannot believe it
either…looked flat today…..and the damn kid from FSU had to have a name that sounded like dookies all night..
BWAREofDWARE94 - January 14, 2012
lol..........i said the exact same thing.
That’s why dickie v. loves him so much. Can you believe he posed for a pic with the guy?
TARHEEL PAUL - January 14, 2012
Dickie V....
….I cannot say what I want on here……..posing for a pick with the kid….UGH!!
BWAREofDWARE94 - January 14, 2012
Karma hurts
UNC is to me what the Cowboys are to other football fans. The seed of my distaste was the four corners offense. When UNC would go into it, my dad would get bored, turn off the tv, and then say something like, “let’s go replace the starter on the Bronco,” which was code for three hours in the freezing cold wanting to answer the most frequently repeated question of my youth: “can’t you hold that goddammed flashlight still?” (Sure, dad, I could, but maintaining the circulation in my extremities is more important). Oh headlamp, where were you in my hours (and hours) of need?
Being a Spartan fan, I have more recent reasons for disliking the Tarheels. The karma I refer to is Saturday’s loss to Northwestern that came on the heels of taking a little too much pleasure in the drubbing of UNC by FSU.
Go Green!
Lajitas Lava - January 16, 2012
If you ever get a chance to hear Dickie V speak , do it.
I am not a fan of his basketball stuff. He annoys me. However when I got to hear him speak at a luncheon I was impressed. He is passionate and has a lot of good things to say. The guy is 71 years old. He is a no bs kind of speaker.
football mensa - January 14, 2012
I've heard him speak a couple of times here in Charlotte
and you’re right. He will inspire the hell out you. He did me anyways.
TARHEEL PAUL - January 14, 2012
If we take old ass weeden Ill spit
matt575 - January 14, 2012 via mobile
Let's not overthink things here.
Yes, we could use another guard or two, and if DeCastro is the highest guy left on the board, absolutely take him. But with the way Terrence Newman played over the second half of the season, I absolutely cannot fathom passing up on Kirkpatrick in favor of an OG (the need for which I feel is slightly overstated by certain fans). Same thing goes for SOLB – we could definitely do better than Spencer, but I have my doubts anybody selected at #14 would be as big of an upgrade over him as one of the top two corners would be Newman.
Here’s what I’m thinking, with admittedly quite a bit of luck involved:
1) Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama
2) Dontari Poe, DT, Memphis
3) Cordy Glenn, OG, Georgia OR Mike Brewster, C, Ohio State
TheBlueBaron - January 14, 2012
Some needs are more important than others.
For example, lets say you have the worst long snapper in the league…yeah you obviously need a new one, but is that really more important than say beefing up an average OL? Probably not. You’re right, the offensive line is unfairly maligned, but I’m still a DeCastro supporter. It’s an offensive league, and a lot of the times that the defense “fell apart” I view it as the offense just didn’t score in the second half. Against Detroit, New York, and New England how many points were scored in the second half? Look I’m with you the secondary’s in worse shape than the OL. CBs tend to have more value than interior line man I’m with you there too.
However, DeCastro is a very special interior lineman. Think Larry Allen back to the glory days, Faneca/Hutchinson of last decade or Carl Nicks this year. DeCastro’s capable of being that type of player. Now I’m not saying he’s as good as Larry Allen. Part of what made Allen great is that he was able to maintain a high level of play for a very long time, but I think DeCastro can have peak years that were every bit as good as Larry Allen’s. DeCastro’s also a better guard than Kirkpatrick is a CB. I know you’re saying, “so what?” great guard or a good CB, I’ll take the good CB. In most cases you’re right. I’d rather have Kirkpatrick over Osemele, and I think Osemele’s a better guard than Kirkpatrick is a corner too. However, DeCastro is a worlds better guard than Kirkpatrick is a corner. DeCastro is the type of player that can have the same impact that Tyron Smith had his rookie year, I’m talking he’ll have a great shot at the pro bowl and he’ll probably deserve a nod either way. That type of production his rookie year and he’ll only get better. Within three years he’ll be the best guard in the year. You like Mike Iupati? DeCastro is a more athletic Mike Iupati with a meanstreak. So while I agree with you in principle, I disagree with you in the application. Lets not underthink things here either. If DeCastro was this good at his position and played QB he’d be better than Andrew Luck.
Second, I think OL is the greater need than a secondary despite being in better shape than the secondary. It’s an offensive game. In the past two years we’ve seen Romo take too many hits. The name of the game is scoring, while SF may beat New Orleans today, the past Super Bowl teams have all been offensive minded teams with great aerial attacks. The Cowboys have a QB that’s capable of heading up one of those attacks and the tools at WR to provide one of the best passing offenses in the league, they just need one of the best OLs in the league to go with it. A lot of people say that the defense collapsed in the second half of too many games, I’ll say yeah the defense didn’t play that well but in the second half of these games the offense didn’t hold up their end of the bargain either. Against the Jets they scored what? Seven points in the second half? The Lions, six points in the second half? Patriots? The offense needs to do better in the second half and they need to have the kind of running game that will allow them to take pressure off of Romo and keep defenses honest and wear down the clock late in the games. In today’s NFL that’s what the running game is for. They have a good running back in Murray and if the OL can keep some holes open him, he’ll find them along with Tony Fiametta. In today’s NFL it’s barely legal to cover a WR…let alone play him aggressively. Scoring’s the name of the game, and I think the Cowboys merely need to score more points instead of allowing fewer. Yes, the defense needs work too, but in today’s NFL offense is the favorite kid that gets all the cool toys and defense is the red headed step child. You still need to feed it, it’s just a second class citizen.
Omar Little - January 14, 2012
Well said
Rohpuri - January 14, 2012 via mobile
Agreed
Patriots and Packers are last in the league in D. Yet, they’re a couple of the best teams…
OFFENSE wins championships nowadays.
Tyrone Jenkins - January 14, 2012
Based on that assessment, DeCastro will be gone long before the 14th pick. He's no lower than Top 10
pjohn56 - January 15, 2012
Ehhh, a lot of teams do some dumb things. Guards are viewed as second class citizens on draft day. Given that the team viewed Iupati as a trade up candidate I think they’ll be thoroughly enthralled with DeCastro. Maybe even move up a couple of spots. I do agree that he’s a top ten talent, but there’s a few guys that will blow up the combine and inevitably move up. There’s also the QB that’s viewed as a second now and will move up to the top ten, and there’s the guy that some team will take twenty picks earlier than conventional wisdom. The board’s very fluid right now. Kalil, Martin, Rieff, Luck, RGIII, Richardson, Blackmon Claiborne, and probably Kirkpatrick will all be taken before DeCastro. That’s nine picks, just need to think of four more players that’ll sneak in ahead of DeCastro.
Omar Little - January 15, 2012 via mobile
The Oregon QB just declared also. His stats are pretty good, no idea where he will go yet.
Rena - January 15, 2012
There's actually a solid chance Darron Thomas be an UDFA. Really smart guy but not very good QB skills and not enough athleticism to switch to another position.
That offense doesn’t teach NFL QB Skills and he had improvement to make even in that system. He bailed b/c the guy behind him is pushing pretty hard, the offense won’t teach him much more that translates to the NFL, risk of injury, risk of a bad season, and LMJ is gone.
His stock isn’t very high at all but there’s a strong likelihood that it peaked this season.
pjohn56 - January 15, 2012
Wow, I figured with his stats and size he would be rated a lot higher than a UDFA.
But I really don’t know anything about him other than his team is good.
Rena - January 15, 2012
Seems more like wishful thinking to me. I'd imagine that DeCastro will move up with all the rest as well. The past five years seem to be trending twds elite OL'men, at G and T, being taken higher than tradition has had them before.
It’d be awesome if he fell to us but I wouldn’t bank on it and I sure as hell wouldn’t trade up for him. The team has too many holes to fix to lose draft picks trading up on what, in essence, is a guess. That’s what all drafting is and every year there’s a handful of these can’t miss, future all-pro take it to the bank guys. No one has a crystal ball and we have enough gaps that trading up would be counter productive imo. Heck, I recall when Kijana Carter was a surefire Hall of Famer.
pjohn56 - January 15, 2012
Its easy to say
that when people continue to use yards as the measuring stick for how effective a defense is. However, I submit that it’s easier to get an upgrade in the OL than it is to get an upgrade at CB. Recovery speed cannot be taught where as strength, hand placement, and technique can be obtained by an O-lineman.
jevans1729 - January 15, 2012
I'm in love with the Walter Football one the most...
Though I’d say something like:
1.) David DeCastro
2.) Ben Jones
3.) Jamell Fleming
I’ll try to get something on guys that might be available in the second here soon. Question though: Why are you guys so down on not moving up? Like at all? I get that there’s a lot of players not worth moving up for and moving up in the early first is a lot harder than the late first…but lets say Peter Konz falls into the bottom five picks of the first round, and some team wants to trade with the Cowboys…isn’t he worth moving up for? Or lets say it’s the second and Dontari Poe or Bruce Irvin is sitting there and a team wants to move back?
Omar Little - January 14, 2012
Its easily Walter
hate the rest
Terry - January 14, 2012
If Decastro is gone look at Brookers
from LSU
He might by our Seymour
burmafrd1944 - January 14, 2012
If Dallas doesn't draft a 1st round CB...
…they had damn well better sign a starting quality FA.
krl97a - January 14, 2012
YES YOU RIGHT
IF THEY DON’T GET THE DUDE FROM NORTH ALABAMA I WOULD PREFER THEM TO GET SOMEONE IN FREE AGENCY. I HEAR GREAT THING ABOUT THE DUDE. PLUS THE LAST TIME WE WERE WINNING SUPERBOWL WE HAD PLENTY OF DRUGS USE PLAYERS YOU REMEMBER THEM BUT THEY GAVE 3 SUPERBOWL WIN OUT OF 4 I TAKE THAT ANY DAY OVER THIS 15 TO ALMOST 2O YRS OF DOING MUCH OF NOT THING.
Timothy Zackery - January 17, 2012
If we can get Kirkpatrick
then we take him. If not, let’s trade down and send Felix Jones, Ogletree, and McCray to Cincinnati and see if we can get their two first round picks. Then we take Dennard and LaMichael James/David DeCastro/Mark Barron.
soonercowboy14 - January 14, 2012
C'mon dude.
Seriously. Most ridiculous thing maybe ever. While we’re at it lets throw in Jesse Holley too, maybe they’ll give us their second rounder.
Nickthegrip - January 14, 2012
Why would they take that trade?
Mac_Eleven - January 14, 2012
NOT HAPPEN
CINCINNATI TRYING TO GET BETTER NOT WORST BUT NICE TRY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN BUT IF IT DID I BE HAPPY NOT SURE CINCINNATI FAN WOULD BE
Timothy Zackery - January 17, 2012
Newnfldraft shows that they aren't very detailed
Why publish a mock if your not doing your home work. No way we draft a ILB in the first round after taking Carter in the second last year. Esp. with the needs along the interior offensive line and OLB and Secondary.
just4fun - January 14, 2012
Yes, once you see something like that you loose any credibility, in my eyes
staubachfan - January 14, 2012
Most of those mocks had at least 1 serious issue with them.
So I mostly just went for one that didn’t and had a 1st rounder I liked who wasn’t a huge reach.
Rena - January 15, 2012
Trading Felix needs to be done
I don’t see us re-signing him as you just don’t do that for a backup or change of pace guy unless he does it for REALLY REALLY cheap. I think any pick would be worth what we get for Felix Jones because I have confidence from what I have seen from Tanner that he could fill in for Murray should he need to come out for any reason. Then go get a guy that can truly be the #3 back and hopefully be a kickoff returner for us.
ProBowlFactory - January 14, 2012
Agreed
I believe a good football team is built from the lines out, on both sides of the ball. However, our secondary seems to be so wrong for this scheme it might need attention before anything else.
RR’s seems to require a level of football intellect many of our guys seem to lack. So I’d actually pay attention to football intelligence level with our picks. I think we have plenty of athleticism but for just about our entire defense to still be confused on assignments or how to execute the blitzes after a year of playing that scheme makes me nervous.
Gosh, defensively speaking you could throw a blind dart at this draft and end up with an upgrade probably. Our pass rush was terrible and our secondary was confused. It was ugly, very very ugly.
pjohn56 - January 14, 2012
I THINK WE ARE OK WITH DEMARCO AND TANNER BUT I SURE WOULD LOVE TO SEE A TYPE OF RB LIKE PEYTON HILLIS AND THE GUYS THE GIANTS HAVE RUN THE BALL AT BACK UP YOU FEEL ME. NOW WHO I NOT SURE WHO’S OUT THERE FOR DRAFT IN THE LATE AROUND THAT FIT THE BILL
Timothy Zackery - January 17, 2012
well,
1) Depends on who comes along in FA first.
2) Drafting an awesome OLineman will help improve the secondary and D overall. Ball control, building big leads, scoring points in bundles, all make your D look better.
3) All this talk about about how good Catro is is signing to me that he’ll be gone anyways, taking the decision out of JJ’s hands. I mean if this guy is really all that, and puts up huge combine numbers, someone will grab him, maybe top 10. Ouch. I’d prefer him to the CB’s and other defensive guys, who may turn out to be misses.
I checked, though, and that would really go against history, drafting a G that high.
Realist Larry - January 15, 2012
Don't think an OG has ever gone as high as 14th
OGs are late 1st rounders if they are drafted in the first round at all.
CMDR - January 15, 2012
I know one went 15 last year.
If you look at recent history G’s and C’s are getting drafted higher and more often in the 1st round as teams see just how important a top OL is worth.
Rena - January 15, 2012
If Jerruh spends the 1st round pick on an OG
I’ll throw something at the TV. Nothing against Decastro.
How many years in a row can you continue to ignore the secondary in the draft and free agency?
CMDR - January 15, 2012
really?
Thats all we been doing is spending time and money and picks on the defense. Last year was the first time Jerry grabbed a first round OL. We can’t win if Romo isn’t on the field.
thebigham - January 15, 2012
Spending picks on the defense?
Surely you jest! The first player chosen in the last four drafts was offense, except for Jason Williams in 2009, and an offensive player was chosen just a few picks after him.
kindablue - January 15, 2012
Please look at our players on defense and how they got there.
Now do the same for offense. Ill wait.
thebigham - January 15, 2012
yes, really
I didn’t say defense, I said secondary.
How many years in a row is the secondary going to remain a sieve before its addressed.
CMDR - January 16, 2012
DON’T WORRY YOU NOT GOING TO NEED TO THROW ANYTHING MAN I SURE THEY MOSTLY GET SOMEONE IN FREE AGENCY THIS TIME AROUND JJ KNOW WHAT HE WERE DOING WHEN HE LET PHIL GET THAT CB LAST YEAR HE JUST DIDN’T WANT TO GIVE THE HOUSE THE KITCHEN IN THE SINK FOR ONE GUY. THEY WANT HAVE TO DO THAT THIS TIME AROUND TRUST ME. PLUS WE STILL NEED TO DRAFT ONE CB IN THIS DRAFT TOO. PLUS IF WE LOSE ANY FREE AGENTS REMEMBER WE GET DRAFT PICKS FOR THEM TOO. MORE TO ADD TO THE TEAM LET THINK BEFORE WE GO ACTING CRAZY RIGHT
Timothy Zackery - January 17, 2012
If he is available, you have to take Poe first
Poe NT – 1st (Move the Rat to DT next to Spencer, resign Spencer)
Markelle Martin S – 2nd
Chase Minnefield CB – 3rd
Molk C – 4th
Best CB available – 5th
Best TE available – 6th
Best Punter available – 7th (Jerry has to get his way with at least one pick :-) )
Pick up a FA for OG
FanSince72 - January 15, 2012
Other
Needs besides Poe. Minnifield will be long gone before the 3rd.
BrickTop - January 15, 2012 via mobile
DO YOU REALLY WANT TO HAVE TO DEPEND ON TWO ROOKIE CB? NO WE DON’T GET ONE IN FREE AGENCY. THEN YES DRAFT ANOTHER AT SOME POINT IN THE DRAFT.
Timothy Zackery - January 17, 2012
I have a Question for everyone
if at the Combine Kirkpatrick has this for a Combine:
40 Yrd Dash: 4.51
20 Yrd Dash: 2.62
10 Yrd Dash: 1.47
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 15
Vertical Jump: 33
Broad Jump: 10’04"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.08
3-Cone Drill: 6.59
Would you take him @ 14th?
I am Ironman!!! - January 15, 2012
you should never draft strictly on combine results
Gotta go by how they performed on the field
Terry - January 15, 2012
of Course
but given his On-field Performance, if Kirkpatrick put these numbers at the Combine, and Fell to 14, would you take him?
I have a Specific Reason For Asking this BTW
I am Ironman!!! - January 15, 2012
Probably not because
I’m all for letting the Janoris Jenkins scenario play out. He’s going to get drug tested at the Senior Bowl and probably at the Combine too. If he’s clean, I would consider taking him. Depending whose still on the board at #14, I can probably get another pick and draft Jenkins at around 18. Since I’m all for signing Carl Nicks, I can look at a Vinny Curry or Markelle in the 2nd depending whether or not someone gives Spencer stupid money. That way I get a sure thing for my O-line and upgrade the secondary.
jevans1729 - January 15, 2012
that’d be sweet! Grabbing two staring players with your first two picks in the draft.
StarloverinWNC - January 15, 2012
then if you could grab another top end G/C/CB in the 3rd…
StarloverinWNC - January 15, 2012
Walter Football
Me wikey.
Cowboys Dominance - January 15, 2012
PLAYERS THAT WE COULD LOSE THIS OFF SEASON!
JON KITNA ,QB,CHRIS GREISEN QB,JESSE HOLLEY WR,KEVIN OLGLETREE WR, LAURENT ROBINSON WR,MARTELLUS BENNETT TE,SAMMY MORRIS RB,CHAUNCEY WASHINGTON RB,TONY FLAMMETTA FB,ALAN BALL CB,FRANK WALKER CB,ABRAM ELAM S,DERRICK DOCKERY G,MONTREA HOLLAND G,KEITH BROOKING MLB,CLIFTON GEATHERS DE,JERMEY PARNELL T,MAT MCBRIAR P,ANTHONY SPENCER LB,BRADIE JAMES LB.
NOW OF ALL OF THESE GUYS I CAN SEE US NOT HAVING ANY OF THEM BACK AT NO LOSE AS LONG AS WE TRY IN KEEP LAURENT ROBINSON,TONY FLAMMETTA,MAT MCBRIAR,AND ANTHONY SPENCER. IF YOU LOSE THESE GUY YOU HAVE TO PICK UP FREE AGENTS JUST AS GOOD OR BETTER!
Timothy Zackery - January 17, 2012
Your caps lock button is stuck.
Rena - January 17, 2012
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